No AI Traffic Spawning at Smaller Airports

ch0llis

@hunterdouglas I’m sure you’ll get a response to your ticket from the support team in due course.

I don’t work in the support or product development team. I’m just here enforcing the rules of the forum, which @jamesdude11 seems to have taken umbrage with.

Gabe777

@ch0llis
Do you use the old BGL system... or is it injected in some way ?

Maybe there's a way the user could increase traffic at certain airports rather than edit airport parking spaces ?

ch0llis

@gabe777 as far as I’m aware the BGL method is not being used.

As I see it, from the info provided, there are a couple of possible remedies all with their own pros and cons, either Asobo fix the default airports to make parking spaces large enough for the aircraft, users edit the default airports rather than waiting on Asobo, or Just Flight make the Traffic aircraft smaller so they fit but that may introduce other issues.

Art_P

@ch0llis I find that many airports, including some payware, have errors affecting ai traffic that includes undersized parking spaces. I resolve this by editing the airports that I use frequently because I can. In the case that this is not an option for some, changing the aircraft .cfg file wingspan for the particular ai aircraft that you want to appear at these airports is worth trying.

ch0llis

@art_p that may be worth trying, and is possibly what the support team would suggest to @jamesdude11 if they were to raise a ticket.

They were asking "Does anyone know of a way to work around this, to change the default parking spot size..." and perhaps my initial response was too curt, but the answers to that question are available over on fsdeveloper.com.

Refusing to raise a ticket then threatening to initiate a chargeback, after being given advice that may help and told we don't do support on the forum, doesn't seem like the best way to get help in my experience.

ch0llis

@art_p I'll pass your suggestion on to the development team, seems it might help out those that can't/don't want to edit airports although it may have other consequences.

Here's LIBR after editing the wingspan of some aircraft:

Art_P

Of course one still has to edit the airport to add missing taxi links keeping ai aircraft from taxiing to the runway. Hope LIBR is okay.

hunterdouglas

@ch0llis I do appreciate your help, thank you , and I do hope the team will solve my ticket for me. but in the mean time I would like to test it out at YPMQ for myself and adjust the DH8
you mentioned modifying the cfg file, which line would I modify and to what value please, if it works for me then i'll mention that in my ticket and hopefully they can do a global fix

ch0llis

@hunterdouglas Just had a quick look, if you open the flight_model.cfg from the justflight-aircraft-traffic-fleet\SimObjects\Airplanes\Just Flight Dash 8 Q400 folder in a text editor (like notepad) find the following lines:

[AIRPLANE_GEOMETRY]
wing_area = 1000 ; Wing area S (SQUARE FEET)
wing_span = 85 ; Wing span b (FEET)

and change the wing_span line as follows (I've put the usual value in the comment):

[AIRPLANE_GEOMETRY]
wing_area = 1000 ; Wing area S (SQUARE FEET)
wing_span = 45.8 ; Wing span b (FEET 85)

That should allow DH8s to spawn at YPMQ. It may not be ideal and is firmly in the area of bodge/workaround - changing the wingspan value means that aircraft could spawn at any of the small parking spots, and you may end up with something like the below (exaggerated with extra flight plans) at other airports:

Ideally, the airport would be edited so the spaces on the apron allow for slightly larger aircraft whilst the spaces in the hangar area remain solely for smaller GA aircraft - which I believe is how the airport actually operates. But that's outside my knowledge area and possibly something that Asobo needs to address.

hunterdouglas

excellent thank you very much for your help, it worked perfectly, I'll go and modify my ticket now to let the developers know