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    hhalolo
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    Lack of AI traffics while cruising, I set ND range to 80nm, only 3 or 4 traffics shown on ND, I think it's abnormal only few planes flying above the busy airspace in Switzerland and France, anyone knows how to fix it?

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      Lack of AI traffics while cruising, I set ND range to 80nm, only 3 or 4 traffics shown on ND, I think it's abnormal only few planes flying above the busy airspace in Switzerland and France, anyone knows how to fix it?

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      @hhalolo Nobody ;). During my flight (90 minutes), I only had planes (5) that took off with me from the origin airport.

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        Lack of AI traffics while cruising, I set ND range to 80nm, only 3 or 4 traffics shown on ND, I think it's abnormal only few planes flying above the busy airspace in Switzerland and France, anyone knows how to fix it?

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        @hhalolo said in Lack of AI planes while cruising:

        Lack of AI traffics while cruising, I set ND range to 80nm, only 3 or 4 traffics shown on ND, I think it's abnormal only few planes flying above the busy airspace in Switzerland and France, anyone knows how to fix it?

        If you contact Just Flight support they should be able to look into this. There is a link on the website www.justflight.com
        https://www.justflight.com/support
        https://support.justflight.com/.../folders/17000141794

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          I totally agree....flying a busy route west of Chicago towards Iowa midmorning on a friday and I saw only ONE airplane within 200nm. VERY DISAPPOINTED WITH THIS PROGRAM!! (The youtube influencers sure talked it up though!!!) Hope I can demand a refund!!

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            UNINSTALLED IT!!!! DOES NOT WORK AS ADVERTISED!!! What a waste of $40 bucks!!

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              @hhalolo Nobody ;). During my flight (90 minutes), I only had planes (5) that took off with me from the origin airport.

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              @rafgath It's so unstable, I got an empty airport after landed, no traffic in my arrival airport.

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                UNINSTALLED IT!!!! DOES NOT WORK AS ADVERTISED!!! What a waste of $40 bucks!!

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                @2thfixer Let's take some time to see how can they fix these bugs in future updates.

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                  I totally agree....flying a busy route west of Chicago towards Iowa midmorning on a friday and I saw only ONE airplane within 200nm. VERY DISAPPOINTED WITH THIS PROGRAM!! (The youtube influencers sure talked it up though!!!) Hope I can demand a refund!!

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                  @2thfixer Wow relax it's not even a week after release. There are other posts to help fix lack of traffic and suggestions in the manual like increasing radius in the configuration program, turning off ground vehicles, delete the files in localcache folder for the traffic module ETC.

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                    UNINSTALLED IT!!!! DOES NOT WORK AS ADVERTISED!!! What a waste of $40 bucks!!

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                    @2thfixer said in Lack of AI planes while cruising:

                    UNINSTALLED IT!!!! DOES NOT WORK AS ADVERTISED!!! What a waste of $40 bucks!!

                    Have you contacted Just Flight support?

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                      Lack of AI traffics while cruising, I set ND range to 80nm, only 3 or 4 traffics shown on ND, I think it's abnormal only few planes flying above the busy airspace in Switzerland and France, anyone knows how to fix it?

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                      @hhalolo said in Lack of AI planes while cruising:

                      Lack of AI traffics while cruising, I set ND range to 80nm, only 3 or 4 traffics shown on ND, I think it's abnormal only few planes flying above the busy airspace in Switzerland and France, anyone knows how to fix it?

                      In the traffic control centre options tab you can reduce the "time between cruise traffic spawn attempts (Mins). I find setting to 1 min is good for continental flying.

                      John - Just Flight

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                        @2thfixer Wow relax it's not even a week after release. There are other posts to help fix lack of traffic and suggestions in the manual like increasing radius in the configuration program, turning off ground vehicles, delete the files in localcache folder for the traffic module ETC.

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                        @twentyfivehundred Did all the above actions as you and what support has suggested on several other posts......to no avail, still very little to no enroute traffic. Yes, it has only been a week after release, so what....I feel we should have a working product from the start and all the kinks should have all been worked out BEFORE the thing went live and people PAID for the product! Maybe they should not have released it yet? And I'm not the only one having issues....look at all the SIMILAR complaints. Ya, I'll probably just keep the program tucked away in a folder for use later on ONCE they do come out with updates and fixes, but for now it's uninstalled because in my case it just doesn't function as advertised.

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                          @twentyfivehundred Did all the above actions as you and what support has suggested on several other posts......to no avail, still very little to no enroute traffic. Yes, it has only been a week after release, so what....I feel we should have a working product from the start and all the kinks should have all been worked out BEFORE the thing went live and people PAID for the product! Maybe they should not have released it yet? And I'm not the only one having issues....look at all the SIMILAR complaints. Ya, I'll probably just keep the program tucked away in a folder for use later on ONCE they do come out with updates and fixes, but for now it's uninstalled because in my case it just doesn't function as advertised.

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                          @2thfixer only thign I dont understand is they were in beta testing since summer and even increased testers some weeks before release and all of them did not come up with those mentioned problems? I really cant believe that. The secretive development of FS Traffic, with the many updates we got during development, made me think they are doing something very different than other ai traffic solutions, especially since there were no leaks/previews at all, I thought they have accomplished something they really dont want to spoiler. however, it works on my side as intended, I was aware of the limitations by the sim before and did not expect a perfect product from release, but for now this is rather disappointing.

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                            @twentyfivehundred Did all the above actions as you and what support has suggested on several other posts......to no avail, still very little to no enroute traffic. Yes, it has only been a week after release, so what....I feel we should have a working product from the start and all the kinks should have all been worked out BEFORE the thing went live and people PAID for the product! Maybe they should not have released it yet? And I'm not the only one having issues....look at all the SIMILAR complaints. Ya, I'll probably just keep the program tucked away in a folder for use later on ONCE they do come out with updates and fixes, but for now it's uninstalled because in my case it just doesn't function as advertised.

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                            @2thfixer said in Lack of AI planes while cruising:

                            @twentyfivehundred Did all the above actions as you and what support has suggested on several other posts......to no avail, still very little to no enroute traffic. Yes, it has only been a week after release, so what....I feel we should have a working product from the start and all the kinks should have all been worked out BEFORE the thing went live and people PAID for the product! Maybe they should not have released it yet? And I'm not the only one having issues....look at all the SIMILAR complaints. Ya, I'll probably just keep the program tucked away in a folder for use later on ONCE they do come out with updates and fixes, but for now it's uninstalled because in my case it just doesn't function as advertised.

                            Have you raised a ticket with Just Flight support? If you raise a ticket we can record the problem and see what may be causing it.

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                              @2thfixer only thign I dont understand is they were in beta testing since summer and even increased testers some weeks before release and all of them did not come up with those mentioned problems? I really cant believe that. The secretive development of FS Traffic, with the many updates we got during development, made me think they are doing something very different than other ai traffic solutions, especially since there were no leaks/previews at all, I thought they have accomplished something they really dont want to spoiler. however, it works on my side as intended, I was aware of the limitations by the sim before and did not expect a perfect product from release, but for now this is rather disappointing.

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                              @andymp425

                              You are absolutely right - the program has been extensively tested by a large group of testers with a variety of different systems and also the varying requirements from a traffic program. We would not have released it if we did not think it was as good as we could get.
                              If you let Just Flight support know of any issues you are experiencing by raising a support ticket we can look into them and do our best to resolve them.

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                                You are absolutely right - the program has been extensively tested by a large group of testers with a variety of different systems and also the varying requirements from a traffic program. We would not have released it if we did not think it was as good as we could get.
                                If you let Just Flight support know of any issues you are experiencing by raising a support ticket we can look into them and do our best to resolve them.

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                                @derek Yup, I already did that.

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                                  I totally agree....flying a busy route west of Chicago towards Iowa midmorning on a friday and I saw only ONE airplane within 200nm. VERY DISAPPOINTED WITH THIS PROGRAM!! (The youtube influencers sure talked it up though!!!) Hope I can demand a refund!!

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                                  @2thfixer ZYou need to refresh the input from every 5 minutes to every minute in the Traffic Control Center. I had plenty of aircraft from MSP to LAX. Just no airplanes at the arrival airport.

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                                    @hhalolo said in Lack of AI planes while cruising:

                                    Lack of AI traffics while cruising, I set ND range to 80nm, only 3 or 4 traffics shown on ND, I think it's abnormal only few planes flying above the busy airspace in Switzerland and France, anyone knows how to fix it?

                                    In the traffic control centre options tab you can reduce the "time between cruise traffic spawn attempts (Mins). I find setting to 1 min is good for continental flying.

                                    John - Just Flight

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                                    twentyfivehundred
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                                    @jf-john Thanks I will try that setting next flight. I did find a lot of repaints that were not in the package I added and I see much more traffic now also.

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                                      Flying over Europe during the day and the skies are empty and ATC chatter is pretty non-existent. The skies should be full!

                                      Entering Warsaw center, I did not hear one single communication on ATC for 40 minutes.

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                                        Flying over Europe during the day and the skies are empty and ATC chatter is pretty non-existent. The skies should be full!

                                        Entering Warsaw center, I did not hear one single communication on ATC for 40 minutes.

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                                        @bwbriscoe According to the FAQ you will never hear FSTraffic AI planes at cruise level talking to ATC!

                                        FAQ - Why does cruise traffic not communicate with ATC

                                        Yup, you read that right. Unlike other AI software FSTraffic apparently does something unusual in their injection of AI traffic at cruise levels, and no matter how busy it gets your skies will always sound completely empty…

                                        I think this is a major drawback, and as it’s not clearly stated on the product page I think it’s borderline false marketing, as this is something I would expect to work and not investigate in an FAQ prior purchase.

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                                          @twentyfivehundred Did all the above actions as you and what support has suggested on several other posts......to no avail, still very little to no enroute traffic. Yes, it has only been a week after release, so what....I feel we should have a working product from the start and all the kinks should have all been worked out BEFORE the thing went live and people PAID for the product! Maybe they should not have released it yet? And I'm not the only one having issues....look at all the SIMILAR complaints. Ya, I'll probably just keep the program tucked away in a folder for use later on ONCE they do come out with updates and fixes, but for now it's uninstalled because in my case it just doesn't function as advertised.

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                                          @2thfixer name one addon that has been released that has no issues on first release

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