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When are we getting a improved FMS system

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    Will it also include ability to display on external tablet or over the web?

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      We're hoping to share a progress update on our custom UNS-1 FMS for the 146 within the next couple of weeks.

      It's worth noting though that 'improved' and 'custom' are quite different things with regards to the FMS. The existing 146 FMS is based on a more modern design than the archaic UNS-1, so although our custom FMS will be more authentic to the 146 and will realistically simulate the UNS-1 functionality, you will find there is a trade-off between the two FMS'. That's why we plan to have the option to choose between the existing FMS, the new custom UNS-1 FMS or no FMS at all.

      Just wanted to clarify that point in case anyone was expecting the custom FMS to offer a modern Airbus/Boeing type experience, which will never be the case in the 146 but more so in the upcoming RJ, which will feature a more modern custom FMS.

      Martyn - Development Manager

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        Will it also include ability to display on external tablet or over the web?

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        @taipan303 That's not currently a planned feature but is certainly something we'll look into

        Martyn - Development Manager

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          @taipan303 That's not currently a planned feature but is certainly something we'll look into

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          @martyn thanks, if you don't want to add a web server there is the freeware solution based on the CJ4 https://github.com/dementedmonkey/cj4-mcdu/issues/23 that works with the current version, if that could still work with the new one it should suffice.

          Alternatively allowing it to work with 3rd party web server https://www.aviaworx.com/aviacdu would also be a solution. This would be mostly work on aviaworx side, as long as there is nothing blocking them from accessing the device. Alot are using that for 737 and CRJ CDU exports to web.

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            Sorry another question on this, since I noticed the CJ4 FMS refresh will provide 2 independent FMS in the next update (isntead of mirrored).

            Will the newly developed Justflight FMS for the Avro have two independent systems as well, i.e. not mirrored?

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              It was stated in a Justflight Facebook post it would have the GNLU 910.

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              • MartynM Martyn

                We're hoping to share a progress update on our custom UNS-1 FMS for the 146 within the next couple of weeks.

                It's worth noting though that 'improved' and 'custom' are quite different things with regards to the FMS. The existing 146 FMS is based on a more modern design than the archaic UNS-1, so although our custom FMS will be more authentic to the 146 and will realistically simulate the UNS-1 functionality, you will find there is a trade-off between the two FMS'. That's why we plan to have the option to choose between the existing FMS, the new custom UNS-1 FMS or no FMS at all.

                Just wanted to clarify that point in case anyone was expecting the custom FMS to offer a modern Airbus/Boeing type experience, which will never be the case in the 146 but more so in the upcoming RJ, which will feature a more modern custom FMS.

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                @martyn Well I think that's brilliant.

                It's been a while since I used the old Quality Wings UNS so I may well decide to use the more friendly one.

                I remember it being very rudimentary... if not rusty !

                Thnx Martyn.

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                  We're hoping to share a progress update on our custom UNS-1 FMS for the 146 within the next couple of weeks.

                  It's worth noting though that 'improved' and 'custom' are quite different things with regards to the FMS. The existing 146 FMS is based on a more modern design than the archaic UNS-1, so although our custom FMS will be more authentic to the 146 and will realistically simulate the UNS-1 functionality, you will find there is a trade-off between the two FMS'. That's why we plan to have the option to choose between the existing FMS, the new custom UNS-1 FMS or no FMS at all.

                  Just wanted to clarify that point in case anyone was expecting the custom FMS to offer a modern Airbus/Boeing type experience, which will never be the case in the 146 but more so in the upcoming RJ, which will feature a more modern custom FMS.

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                  @martyn a few of us in the SPAD.Next discord have purchased a hardware CDU: https://cockpit-master.com/index.php?id=3390

                  Quite happy to say it works flawlessly with the BAE 146's current CDU, it relies on the same functionality that allows it to show the screen over the web.

                  Please maintain the plan to keep the existing CJ4 style FMS as an option so that we can continue using the hardware with updates. Even better would be if the new FMS works over the web too :)

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                    @martyn a few of us in the SPAD.Next discord have purchased a hardware CDU: https://cockpit-master.com/index.php?id=3390

                    Quite happy to say it works flawlessly with the BAE 146's current CDU, it relies on the same functionality that allows it to show the screen over the web.

                    Please maintain the plan to keep the existing CJ4 style FMS as an option so that we can continue using the hardware with updates. Even better would be if the new FMS works over the web too :)

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                    @taipan303 said in When are we getting a improved FMS system:

                    @martyn
                    Please maintain the plan to keep the existing CJ4 style FMS as an option so that we can continue using the hardware with updates. Even better would be if the new FMS works over the web too :)

                    Yes, please consider allowing external hardware/tablet access to the FMS through available open-source webservers or aviaworx.
                    It really adds a lot to the sim experience imho and could be used for all future projects as well.

                    Kind Regards,
                    André

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                      @martyn a few of us in the SPAD.Next discord have purchased a hardware CDU: https://cockpit-master.com/index.php?id=3390

                      Quite happy to say it works flawlessly with the BAE 146's current CDU, it relies on the same functionality that allows it to show the screen over the web.

                      Please maintain the plan to keep the existing CJ4 style FMS as an option so that we can continue using the hardware with updates. Even better would be if the new FMS works over the web too :)

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                      @taipan303

                      They are on record stating that they will release the original one but retain the current one for those who want it.

                      Panic over.

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                        @taipan303

                        They are on record stating that they will release the original one but retain the current one for those who want it.

                        Panic over.

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                        @gabe777 why did you panic?
                        My last post was mostly to hint at making the NEW version CDU compatible as well as noting that hardware now works too, no need to panic.

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                        • MartynM Martyn

                          We're hoping to share a progress update on our custom UNS-1 FMS for the 146 within the next couple of weeks.

                          It's worth noting though that 'improved' and 'custom' are quite different things with regards to the FMS. The existing 146 FMS is based on a more modern design than the archaic UNS-1, so although our custom FMS will be more authentic to the 146 and will realistically simulate the UNS-1 functionality, you will find there is a trade-off between the two FMS'. That's why we plan to have the option to choose between the existing FMS, the new custom UNS-1 FMS or no FMS at all.

                          Just wanted to clarify that point in case anyone was expecting the custom FMS to offer a modern Airbus/Boeing type experience, which will never be the case in the 146 but more so in the upcoming RJ, which will feature a more modern custom FMS.

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                          @martyn said in When are we getting a improved FMS system:

                          We're hoping to share a progress update on our custom UNS-1 FMS for the 146 within the next couple of weeks.

                          It's worth noting though that 'improved' and 'custom' are quite different things with regards to the FMS. The existing 146 FMS is based on a more modern design than the archaic UNS-1, so although our custom FMS will be more authentic to the 146 and will realistically simulate the UNS-1 functionality, you will find there is a trade-off between the two FMS'. That's why we plan to have the option to choose between the existing FMS, the new custom UNS-1 FMS or no FMS at all.

                          Just wanted to clarify that point in case anyone was expecting the custom FMS to offer a modern Airbus/Boeing type experience, which will never be the case in the 146 but more so in the upcoming RJ, which will feature a more modern custom FMS.

                          Heya @Martyn have you got any more news on how the UNS-1 is coming along? Some friends have been asking about it and have been holding off on getting the 146 until it is ready (despite me saying they don't have to use the WT if they don't want to).

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                            @martyn said in When are we getting a improved FMS system:

                            We're hoping to share a progress update on our custom UNS-1 FMS for the 146 within the next couple of weeks.

                            It's worth noting though that 'improved' and 'custom' are quite different things with regards to the FMS. The existing 146 FMS is based on a more modern design than the archaic UNS-1, so although our custom FMS will be more authentic to the 146 and will realistically simulate the UNS-1 functionality, you will find there is a trade-off between the two FMS'. That's why we plan to have the option to choose between the existing FMS, the new custom UNS-1 FMS or no FMS at all.

                            Just wanted to clarify that point in case anyone was expecting the custom FMS to offer a modern Airbus/Boeing type experience, which will never be the case in the 146 but more so in the upcoming RJ, which will feature a more modern custom FMS.

                            Heya @Martyn have you got any more news on how the UNS-1 is coming along? Some friends have been asking about it and have been holding off on getting the 146 until it is ready (despite me saying they don't have to use the WT if they don't want to).

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                            @melon
                            Hi,
                            An update was posted earlier today: https://www.justflight.com/articles/uns-1-custom-fms-update-dec-2022

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                              Hi,
                              An update was posted earlier today: https://www.justflight.com/articles/uns-1-custom-fms-update-dec-2022

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                              @rich Oh nice... I must have had a sixths sense impression or something.

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                                @rich Oh nice... I must have had a sixths sense impression or something.

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                                FailCold
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                                Wow, the Universal FMC looks amazing! Can't wait. Is there like a development blog where these updates get posted? I only saw the link from this forum post.

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                                  Any update on this ?

                                  And any ETA on Avro RJ ?

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