Pitch and roll issues.
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Hey all,
Just got the Hawk and i have been having some issues with it.
First off i had to change my stick curves a LOT from -15 for most planes (0 for Arrows) to +35% for the Hawk.However two things i noticed so far remain and are quite disturbing.
1: After pitching up or down the plane makes a very weird bounce back to zero, feels very artificial and scriped. Happens both up and down.
2: Aten at around 350Ias, using full depection with just aileron input the plane will enter in an uncontrolable state just tumbling.Edit:
3: Wingtip vortecies not showing even after pulling over 8G. They are enabled on the I-padController used X-55
See video. Timestamps in description.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q8eAWT2NX88Seems the roll issue only happens when 2x Aim 9 are loaded on the outer points.
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Seems the roll issue only happens when 2x Aim 9 are loaded on the outer points.
@cgnoorloos I sometimes have this behaviour too. I have never worked out why. I do remember though in earlier versions I did not have this at all.
I have the Thustmaster HOTAS for my hawk setup, and I did look at if having dual controls assigned at the same time was conflicting with the inputs as I have a Honeycomb setup for my airliners. I have come to one conclusion though, the HAWK behaves slightly better with the honeycomb setup disabled.
I am still not sure if this is the problem as my setup has always been the same.
If you ever sort this out post back with any fix you may have had. Not flown it for a while now due to this. -
Hey all,
Just got the Hawk and i have been having some issues with it.
First off i had to change my stick curves a LOT from -15 for most planes (0 for Arrows) to +35% for the Hawk.However two things i noticed so far remain and are quite disturbing.
1: After pitching up or down the plane makes a very weird bounce back to zero, feels very artificial and scriped. Happens both up and down.
2: Aten at around 350Ias, using full depection with just aileron input the plane will enter in an uncontrolable state just tumbling.Edit:
3: Wingtip vortecies not showing even after pulling over 8G. They are enabled on the I-padController used X-55
See video. Timestamps in description.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q8eAWT2NX88@cgnoorloos I looked at your post as I'm also having roll issues, but not the same thing (I'm not going to hijack your post with my problems).
I'm not 'Just Flight' expert but watching your vid I'm wondering if you are trimming the aircraft at all? I don't think you are and that's why you are getting the nose up pitching in the climb.
For your rolling issue, I can't produce that problem because of the roll problem I've got (too little roll). It seems you have too much roll.
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@cgnoorloos I looked at your post as I'm also having roll issues, but not the same thing (I'm not going to hijack your post with my problems).
I'm not 'Just Flight' expert but watching your vid I'm wondering if you are trimming the aircraft at all? I don't think you are and that's why you are getting the nose up pitching in the climb.
For your rolling issue, I can't produce that problem because of the roll problem I've got (too little roll). It seems you have too much roll.
@baw24p Ofc i trim, that is like super basic party of flight...
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@baw24p Ofc i trim, that is like super basic party of flight...
@cgnoorloos It could be my eyes but the trim gauge doesn't seem to show you trimming. It only appears to be moving when you move the joystick, hence the suggestion.
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@cgnoorloos It could be my eyes but the trim gauge doesn't seem to show you trimming. It only appears to be moving when you move the joystick, hence the suggestion.
@baw24p Look closer the trim does change however in the last 50% or so i did not have it in perfect trim as level flight right there was not what i was after. In the first part i do trim it.
The pitch jumps happen regardless of trim state.
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@baw24p Look closer the trim does change however in the last 50% or so i did not have it in perfect trim as level flight right there was not what i was after. In the first part i do trim it.
The pitch jumps happen regardless of trim state.
Though i have not flown her in SU10Asobo has been making undocumented changes to the flight model engine. Alot of aircraft need/get patches to cater for the changes, you can see the comments in the PA-28 Warrior II forum about this where Asobos changes practically broke the Warriors flight model making it extremely different to the real aircraft when it used to be very accurate.
I haven't read the changelogs fully for all JF aircraft yet, but if the Hawk hasn't been updated to account for the Asobo changes that may explain what happened considering you guys didn't have this issue previously.
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I'm also experiencing the issue with pitch "bouncing back" during elevator input. Roll is perfectly fine so far, I haven't tried the version with missiles though.
I see that JF is working on the flight model, so hopefully this can be addressed soon.
I know it's OT, but didn't want to open a new topic just for this short question: Is there anyone who is able to assign the warning lights cancelling to a joystick button, like mentioned in the documentation? When I use the GPWS switch toggle assignments, it does not silence nor extinguish the red warning lights. Is this just me? Works fine using the mouse.
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I'm also experiencing the issue with pitch "bouncing back" during elevator input. Roll is perfectly fine so far, I haven't tried the version with missiles though.
I see that JF is working on the flight model, so hopefully this can be addressed soon.
I know it's OT, but didn't want to open a new topic just for this short question: Is there anyone who is able to assign the warning lights cancelling to a joystick button, like mentioned in the documentation? When I use the GPWS switch toggle assignments, it does not silence nor extinguish the red warning lights. Is this just me? Works fine using the mouse.
@mburkhard said in Pitch and roll issues.:
I know it's OT, but didn't want to open a new topic just for this short question: Is there anyone who is able to assign the warning lights cancelling to a joystick button, like mentioned in the documentation? When I use the GPWS switch toggle assignments, it does not silence nor extinguish the red warning lights. Is this just me? Works fine using the mouse.
Yes, I've mapped to my master warning button like this in SPAD.next:
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Just going to bump this one.
