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  • M Mikealpha

    I have a dedicated tiller defined as nosewheel steering axis. However, in the BAe 146 the rudder is active on the nosewheel as well by the same amount, even at very low speeds. As a consequence this is extremely twitchy as the rudder apparently constantly tries to neutralize tiller input.

    Can you decouple the rudder from the nosewheel steering ?!

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    okletsgo
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    @mikealpha
    Same issue here....Hopefully they can add an option to decouple the NWS from the Rudder, like in the FBW A320.

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      Hi @Martyn

      saw no mention of this in the 1.3. changelog. Is there still a chance to get this fixed ?
      It's completely screwed up. Just a touch on the nosewheel steering and the plane continues to veer to one side even with steering back in neutral.
      To correct this the same behaviour on the other side then, which in practice means continues corrections with the plane veering from one side to the other.
      I have read the MSFS nosewheel axis is broken. Maybe you can do it like PMDG ? They assigned the Prop axis to nosewheel steering.

      Mike

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        Hi @Martyn

        saw no mention of this in the 1.3. changelog. Is there still a chance to get this fixed ?
        It's completely screwed up. Just a touch on the nosewheel steering and the plane continues to veer to one side even with steering back in neutral.
        To correct this the same behaviour on the other side then, which in practice means continues corrections with the plane veering from one side to the other.
        I have read the MSFS nosewheel axis is broken. Maybe you can do it like PMDG ? They assigned the Prop axis to nosewheel steering.

        Mike

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        b3lt3r
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        @mikealpha MSFS does now have a nosewheel steering axis available in the base sim so if devs enable separation of rudder and NWS it works - that's what I do on Fenix now.

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          @mikealpha MSFS does now have a nosewheel steering axis available in the base sim so if devs enable separation of rudder and NWS it works - that's what I do on Fenix now.

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          @b3lt3r yes, MSFS has a nosewheel axis, that's what I am using for the tiller.
          But apparent it has issues, that's why PMDG chose to use the Prop Axis.

          Yes, developers need to offer a selection, either using Rudder or using nosewheel axis (or prop axis in the PMDG example PMDG)

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          • M Mikealpha

            @b3lt3r yes, MSFS has a nosewheel axis, that's what I am using for the tiller.
            But apparent it has issues, that's why PMDG chose to use the Prop Axis.

            Yes, developers need to offer a selection, either using Rudder or using nosewheel axis (or prop axis in the PMDG example PMDG)

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            Mikealpha
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            @Martyn , any chance for a statement from your end ?

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            • M Mikealpha

              @Martyn , any chance for a statement from your end ?

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              Martyn
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              @mikealpha We've made changes to the nose wheel steering in v1.3 so hopefully that'll address it for you:

              Rudder axis steering option added - When enabled, the rudder axis control assignment will also control the tiller for nose wheel steering. When disabled, the ‘STEERING INC/DEC’ and ‘NOSE WHEEL STEERING AXIS’ assignments can be used to control the tiller without moving the rudder pedals. You can also click and drag the tillers to control only the steering.

              Martyn - Development Manager

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              • MartynM Martyn

                @mikealpha We've made changes to the nose wheel steering in v1.3 so hopefully that'll address it for you:

                Rudder axis steering option added - When enabled, the rudder axis control assignment will also control the tiller for nose wheel steering. When disabled, the ‘STEERING INC/DEC’ and ‘NOSE WHEEL STEERING AXIS’ assignments can be used to control the tiller without moving the rudder pedals. You can also click and drag the tillers to control only the steering.

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                Mikealpha
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                @martyn oh, OK, sounds great. Thanks for the info!!

                Mike

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                • MartynM Martyn

                  @mikealpha We've made changes to the nose wheel steering in v1.3 so hopefully that'll address it for you:

                  Rudder axis steering option added - When enabled, the rudder axis control assignment will also control the tiller for nose wheel steering. When disabled, the ‘STEERING INC/DEC’ and ‘NOSE WHEEL STEERING AXIS’ assignments can be used to control the tiller without moving the rudder pedals. You can also click and drag the tillers to control only the steering.

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                  @martyn Hi Martyn, where can I find that Rudder axis steering option ? I had a look in the ini file, but there it's apparently not.

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                    @martyn Hi Martyn, where can I find that Rudder axis steering option ? I had a look in the ini file, but there it's apparently not.

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                    Martyn
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                    @mikealpha EFB aircraft configuration settings. It's shown in the EFB section of the manual.

                    Martyn - Development Manager

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                    • MartynM Martyn

                      @mikealpha EFB aircraft configuration settings. It's shown in the EFB section of the manual.

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                      Mikealpha
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                      @martyn thanks, found it!

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                        Is it possible to have the aircraft recognise ground contact and and allow rudder pedals to control the nose wheel without rudder interaction at low taxi speeds?

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