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Control bindings for Heat/Air sliders?

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    Here is a before screen shot with icing...
    Screenshot 2021-11-23 142032.jpg

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      Here is a screen shot about 2 min. after turning the Cabin Heat lever to ON...

      Screenshot 2021-11-23 142317.jpg

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        Icing conditions with Cabin Heat OFF...
        Screenshot 2021-11-23 142048.jpg

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          With Cabin Heat set to ON, in icing conditions...
          Screenshot 2021-11-23 142259.jpg

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            With Cabin Heat set to ON, in icing conditions...
            Screenshot 2021-11-23 142259.jpg

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            @retiredman93231 Thanks, is that the slider or a button bound to the command?

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              @retiredman93231 Thanks, is that the slider or a button bound to the command?

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              @katchaplin Setting the Cabin Heat lever in the cockpit to ON will send the sim command WINDSHIELD DEICE ON... But, the sim command is not bound to the lever animation, so binding the command to a key or button won't move the lever.

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                @katchaplin Setting the Cabin Heat lever in the cockpit to ON will send the sim command WINDSHIELD DEICE ON... But, the sim command is not bound to the lever animation, so binding the command to a key or button won't move the lever.

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                @retiredman93231 got it, thanks.

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                  With Cabin Heat set to ON, in icing conditions...
                  Screenshot 2021-11-23 142259.jpg

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                  @retiredman93231 So now I'm puzzled why it didn't work for me...

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                    @retiredman93231 So now I'm puzzled why it didn't work for me...

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                    @walterbeech Maybe the slider has to be all the way ON to trigger the DEICE command... Make sure you move the lever all the way to the right.

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                      @walterbeech Maybe the slider has to be all the way ON to trigger the DEICE command... Make sure you move the lever all the way to the right.

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                      @retiredman93231 Good point.

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                        @retiredman93231 Good point.

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                        So using the MSFS WINDSHIELD DEICE command to provide de-icing is really a cheat in the Just Flight Arrow.

                        Just out of interest, I Googled and found another thread on this here:
                        https://forums.flightsimulator.com/t/pa-28-just-flight-how-to-defrost-windows/381026

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                          So using the MSFS WINDSHIELD DEICE command to provide de-icing is really a cheat in the Just Flight Arrow.

                          Just out of interest, I Googled and found another thread on this here:
                          https://forums.flightsimulator.com/t/pa-28-just-flight-how-to-defrost-windows/381026

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                          @sender46 Using the standard commands provided in the simulator to control various functions is not "cheating".

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                            @sender46 Using the standard commands provided in the simulator to control various functions is not "cheating".

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                            @retiredman93231 It is if the defrost control in the real aircraft doesn't provide a de-icing function. But I'm just being picky ... :)

                            I guess it's a bit like like having autopilot vertical hold and you can choose whether to use it or not.

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                              @retiredman93231 It is if the defrost control in the real aircraft doesn't provide a de-icing function. But I'm just being picky ... :)

                              I guess it's a bit like like having autopilot vertical hold and you can choose whether to use it or not.

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                              @sender46 The real aircraft has built-in vents for defrosting the windshield, along with providing heat to the cabin... just like your car.

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                                @sender46 The real aircraft has built-in vents for defrosting the windshield, along with providing heat to the cabin... just like your car.

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                                @retiredman93231 said in Control bindings for Heat/Air sliders?:

                                @sender46 The real aircraft has built-in vents for defrosting the windshield, along with providing heat to the cabin... just like your car.

                                Yes, I already understand that.

                                But based on what others are saying, in this aircraft that does NOT de-ice the outside of the windscreen in real life.

                                Quoting from the link I provided previously:

                                "Defrost does not de-ice the outside of the windshield. It is really meant to keep the inside of the windows from fogging up if descending from a colder temperature at cruse altitude into a humid environment. None of the PA-28s are approved for flight in icing conditions. If the windshield could be de-iced with the defrost system, the airplane would probably fall out of the sky before the windows clear up enough to even see out of them."

                                I don't have any experience of the real aircraft. I'm just providing another source of information, provided by people who appear to be well informed, which I have no reason to doubt.

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                                  @retiredman93231 said in Control bindings for Heat/Air sliders?:

                                  @sender46 The real aircraft has built-in vents for defrosting the windshield, along with providing heat to the cabin... just like your car.

                                  Yes, I already understand that.

                                  But based on what others are saying, in this aircraft that does NOT de-ice the outside of the windscreen in real life.

                                  Quoting from the link I provided previously:

                                  "Defrost does not de-ice the outside of the windshield. It is really meant to keep the inside of the windows from fogging up if descending from a colder temperature at cruse altitude into a humid environment. None of the PA-28s are approved for flight in icing conditions. If the windshield could be de-iced with the defrost system, the airplane would probably fall out of the sky before the windows clear up enough to even see out of them."

                                  I don't have any experience of the real aircraft. I'm just providing another source of information, provided by people who appear to be well informed, which I have no reason to doubt.

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                                  @sender46 I totally agree that the best thing to do in the real aircraft, or in the sim, is to avoid flying in icing conditions, by closely watching the forcast weather along your planned route and not flying into clouds. And, if you do encounter icing conditions, to get out of it as quickly as possible by either climbing, descending or turning around... Meanwhile, you should also turn on the Cabin Heat.

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