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Front Seat/Back Seat View Command Binding

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    hughesj2
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    Hi,
    Is there a way to assign the ability to switch from front to back seats to a joystick button? I've tried Co-Pilot Toggle but it only seems to move me to the front seat if I've used the menu camera control to hop in the back seat rather than toggle the seating positions? If I'm in the front seat the same command just seems to make the view flicker briefly?
    Cheers
    James

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      lilycrose
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      #2

      I use custom cameras rather than panning everywhere. One of my custom camera views is the back seat.

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        I use custom cameras rather than panning everywhere. One of my custom camera views is the back seat.

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        @katchaplin So there's already as view set-up for Co-Pilot/Back Seat, I just want to be able to bind that to a key (joystick button ultimately) so I can easily switch seats by using a joystick button? Is that what you're doing?
        Cheers
        J

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          Close, I use the Camera controls and mouse to get exactly the view I want, then I use Ctrl+Alt+# (0-9) to save it as a custom view. Once I have the view I bind a button to that view. For example, my Instructor View is Ctrl+Alt+5, then I just bind Custom View 5 to a button on my joystick. Because I don't plan to spend much time in back, I only have the one view and will use the mouse camera controls to accomplish the preflight. For the forward cockpit, I have 4 custom views set, one as my 'default' a little further back than the regular default, one for a close up of the instrument panel, and one for each side console. You can use the keyboard to retrieve the Custom views as well, but I have them all bound to various buttons on either my joystick or throttle.

          As an addendum, I can't use VR or 1st person games for the most part as I get motion sickness within about 30 seconds of trying, so I've learned to compensate by creating views that are basically 'steady' state, so I don't get sick.

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            Close, I use the Camera controls and mouse to get exactly the view I want, then I use Ctrl+Alt+# (0-9) to save it as a custom view. Once I have the view I bind a button to that view. For example, my Instructor View is Ctrl+Alt+5, then I just bind Custom View 5 to a button on my joystick. Because I don't plan to spend much time in back, I only have the one view and will use the mouse camera controls to accomplish the preflight. For the forward cockpit, I have 4 custom views set, one as my 'default' a little further back than the regular default, one for a close up of the instrument panel, and one for each side console. You can use the keyboard to retrieve the Custom views as well, but I have them all bound to various buttons on either my joystick or throttle.

            As an addendum, I can't use VR or 1st person games for the most part as I get motion sickness within about 30 seconds of trying, so I've learned to compensate by creating views that are basically 'steady' state, so I don't get sick.

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            @katchaplin cheers, sounds a bit convoluted considering there's already a view setup in the cockpit view menu but I'll have a look later

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              Martyn
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              In the next update, the EFB control (front/rear) button will now automatically switch you between the front and rear cockpit camera views

              Martyn - Development Manager

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              • MartynM Martyn

                In the next update, the EFB control (front/rear) button will now automatically switch you between the front and rear cockpit camera views

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                @martyn Thanks Martin, and that will be bindable to a joystick button as well?

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                • hughesj2H hughesj2

                  @martyn Thanks Martin, and that will be bindable to a joystick button as well?

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                  @hughesj2 Yes, it can also be selected using the 'TOGGLE ENGINE 4 ANTI ICE' and 'SET ENGINE 4 ANTI ICE' control assignments

                  Martyn - Development Manager

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                    @hughesj2 Yes, it can also be selected using the 'TOGGLE ENGINE 4 ANTI ICE' and 'SET ENGINE 4 ANTI ICE' control assignments

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                    @martyn said in Front Seat/Back Seat View Command Binding:

                    'TOGGLE ENGINE 4 ANTI ICE' and 'SET ENGINE 4 ANTI ICE' control assignments

                    Great thanks Martyn, apologies for the misspelling of your name as well on previous reply

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                      There is a Toggle Copilot View in the Controls Options. Just bind that to a button.

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                        There is a Toggle Copilot View in the Controls Options. Just bind that to a button.

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                        @katchaplin That command appears to be broken in MSFS...

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                          @katchaplin That command appears to be broken in MSFS...

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                          @retiredman93231 Yes, figured that out after I posted it, and another reason I created an apparently convoluted custom camera to do the same thing.

                          And while the set up is more involved, the end result makes things much simpler, in my opinion. Instead of having to cycle through all the cockpit views to get the one you want, it's one button press to view and one button press to return to the default.

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                            @retiredman93231 Yes, figured that out after I posted it, and another reason I created an apparently convoluted custom camera to do the same thing.

                            And while the set up is more involved, the end result makes things much simpler, in my opinion. Instead of having to cycle through all the cockpit views to get the one you want, it's one button press to view and one button press to return to the default.

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                            @katchaplin A quick way to set up a Custom View for the Copilot seat would be to simply select COPILOT from the Camera menu, then immediately save it as a Custom View using the keys you outlined above. Then the Toggle Custom View command could be easily bound to a key or button for quick access.

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                              @katchaplin A quick way to set up a Custom View for the Copilot seat would be to simply select COPILOT from the Camera menu, then immediately save it as a Custom View using the keys you outlined above. Then the Toggle Custom View command could be easily bound to a key or button for quick access.

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                              @retiredman93231 That's basically what I did for the back seat. I set up the other views to my preference, but if all you want is a quick backseat 'switch' that's all you need to do.

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