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      GAJ52 last edited by

      I appreciate your help and comments.

      I find on approach this jerkiness occurs in varying amounts from about 500 ft AGL, this is way above the ground effect altitude, so no I don't believe ground effect is the cause. On my MSFS system its just the JF Arrow that suffers from this problem.

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        Rene Feijen last edited by

        Well, I am sorry for you guys that you also experience this problem. But at least I don't feel alone in this matter, nor do I feel misjudging this matter.

        Hope it will be solved sometime, for the rest the JF Arrows are really great planes!!

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          RetiredMan93231 @Rene Feijen last edited by

          @rene-feijen Try this modification to the flight_model.cfg file...

          [AIRPLANE_GEOMETRY]
          htail_area =0 ;35.9

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            Rene Feijen @RetiredMan93231 last edited by

            @retiredman93231 said in Pitch "jerks":

            @rene-feijen Try this modification to the flight_model.cfg file...

            [AIRPLANE_GEOMETRY]
            htail_area =0 ;35.9

            Thanks, will try!

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              Rene Feijen @RetiredMan93231 last edited by

              @retiredman93231 Is that only for the Turbo Arrow III?

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                Delta558 @Rene Feijen last edited by

                @rene-feijen it is worth a try for any of them that you experience the behaviour with. My concern is that it will have an adverse effect on handling elsewhere, as we have looked at that before, but your feedback will be useful.

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                  Rene Feijen @Delta558 last edited by

                  @delta558 so just insert 0 space ; before the respective values ?

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                    Rene Feijen @Rene Feijen last edited by

                    I edited the config for the Turbow Arrow III. Flew in Stormy weather, it looks a bit smoother than before, but maybe placebo effect? Flew the same in the C172 and it was more fluent, while still shaking as much. It is more... dampened?

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                      GAJ52 last edited by

                      @retiredman93231 said in Pitch "jerks":

                      @rene-feijen Try this modification to the flight_model.cfg file...

                      [AIRPLANE_GEOMETRY]
                      htail_area =0 ;35.9

                      Many thanks for your help with this problem.

                      I applied the mod but didn't notice any difference, I appreciate this might be just my system. I'm one of the lucky ones who never suffer from CTD's and have a very stable system regarding MSFS. Generally the JF Arrow flies great with the exception of this annoying jerky response simulating turbulence on approach.

                      I am willing to help the Dev's in any pre-realise testing to try and solve this frustrating problem.

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                        CGNoorloos last edited by

                        I was just pointed to this one and i shall copy my text from my post here too.

                        What frustrates me a lot here is that i spend over a week watching reviews on YT, etc, and nowehere did i see this mentioned (until now). Not even when i asked for bugs.
                        Since i generaly fly between 1000-2000ft it simply makes the plane nearly unflyable as the FM just feels broken over uneven ground. I am also quite sure it has to do with updrafts/ downdrafts from the ground geometry.

                        It is honestly so bad that if i could i would ask for a refund if this isn't fixable, despite how amazing the module is otherwise. This is simply just absolutely broken where i do 90% of my flying.

                        Here is my post:

                        Hey all.
                        I am having issues where the plane behaves very erratic during flight over steep cliffs/mountain sides and hitting the turbulent rising air.
                        It seems to really kick the nose of the plane up and down in a lightning fast manner. So fast it nearly looks like stutters (which it isn't).

                        It this a known bug and will it be fixed? Over very mountainous areas it is nearly headace inducing when it jumps up and down a lot.

                        When over water or smooth/roling landscape it flies absolutely beautifull.

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                          CGNoorloos @Rene Feijen last edited by

                          @rene-feijen I don't think it is the turbulence in the air/wind, but the turbulence that comes from ground geometry.

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                            RetiredMan93231 @CGNoorloos last edited by

                            @cgnoorloos Did you try the mod recommended above...?

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                              CGNoorloos @RetiredMan93231 last edited by

                              @retiredman93231
                              I did not, since i use GAJ52 did not notice a difference. And i am curious as to what else changes when that is added?
                              I can try it tonight to see if it helps.

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                                Rene Feijen @CGNoorloos last edited by

                                @cgnoorloos Copy that.

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                                  epgd last edited by

                                  Yes ,I also confirm - "jerks" during flight and landing phase....
                                  this really cuts all the goodies this Arrow give...
                                  when this problem will be resolved by dew???
                                  bdgs

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                                    Derek JF Staff @epgd last edited by

                                    @epgd

                                    Have you tried contacting Just Fight support?

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                                      GAJ52 @Derek last edited by

                                      @derek

                                      I thought this forum was part of Just Flight Support ?

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                                        Derek JF Staff @GAJ52 last edited by Derek

                                        @gaj52 said in Pitch "jerks":

                                        @derek

                                        I thought this forum was part of Just Flight Support ?

                                        No - there is a full support section on the website:
                                        https://support.justflight.com/support/home

                                        https://support.justflight.com/support/solutions/folders/17000139071

                                        https://support.justflight.com/support/tickets/new

                                        https://community.justflight.com/topic/2/product-support

                                        There has been loads of discussion on the forum among users about the Arrows and Warrior but if you've got a specific problem that needs logging it's always best to contact us direct.

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                                          SebastianR @Derek last edited by

                                          @derek devs really know this issue and have only solution to make sure modern option have on. But this setting not resolve issue. Problems with jerks because of gusts we got from day 1 with all 3 product releases. Maybe it's simulator case but we need a solid statement from DEVS about it.

                                          https://support.justflight.com/support/solutions/articles/17000118147-why-is-the-aircraft-behaving-erratically-after-take-off-

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                                            Derek JF Staff @SebastianR last edited by

                                            @sebastianr We are the devs - it was developed by Just Flight. If you submit a support ticket it can be logged. The more reports we have of something, the more we can piece together causes and solutions.

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