Sound Feedback
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Hello! I really enjoy this aircraft, apart from an over sensitive rudder but thats an MSFS issue and its getting better with sensitivity tweaking... but I have some feedback on the sounds. The following are too quiet:
- Prop start
- Gyro windup
- Prop stop
- Gyro shutdown
Other than that, sounds just as it does IRL. Good job!
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Does anyone else find the Fuel Pump sound to be extremely annoying... It's almost as annoying as listening to someone scrape a chalk board!! This definitely reduces my enjoyment of flying this otherwise great aircraft.
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@RetiredMan93231 Yes!! I posted about this a couple of times before but got no response:
https://community.justflight.com/topic/1781/fuel-pump-noise
It would be good if this could be changed. Maybe use the fuel pump sound from the P3D version? -
For now, it serves to remind me to turn off the pump once out of initial climb
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For now, it serves to remind me to turn off the pump once out of initial climb
@theissondergaard The sooner it's off the better
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well, that's sound feedback right there! ba dum tsh
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The question here is... Is it that loud and annoying in the real thing?
Because if it is, then I guess we cannot complain, but if it is not, then maybe it could be somehow twicked down to be more realistic.
I've seen plenty of real Cherokee videos on YouTube and the pump noise is almost unnoticeable with the engine running, but that could be just the audio, maybe someone with real experience can share his view on this regard...
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The question here is... Is it that loud and annoying in the real thing?
Because if it is, then I guess we cannot complain, but if it is not, then maybe it could be somehow twicked down to be more realistic.
I've seen plenty of real Cherokee videos on YouTube and the pump noise is almost unnoticeable with the engine running, but that could be just the audio, maybe someone with real experience can share his view on this regard...
@RaulKO This is what I was asking in my other thread on this. Some real life feedback on that would be good.
I would have thought the P3D version would have been realistic and that one sounds OK. Maybe the aircraft they based the MSFS version on had a faulty fuel pump?
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Here's some videos of real Piper Arrows and the fuel pump isn't making that horrible intermittent whining noise in any of them:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bo_XHTSpSsE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oBiK3kRDUPs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KDPhV_YHYPI -
Here's some videos of real Piper Arrows and the fuel pump isn't making that horrible intermittent whining noise in any of them:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bo_XHTSpSsE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oBiK3kRDUPs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KDPhV_YHYPI@Sender46 said in Sound Feedback:
Here's some videos of real Piper Arrows and the fuel pump isn't making that horrible intermittent whining noise in any of them:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bo_XHTSpSsE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oBiK3kRDUPs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KDPhV_YHYPIUnless those are recorded using high end pro sound equipment and then checked that they sound right compared to the real life, sounds recorded from standard devices are not a metric you'd use in development. Also just as a example of why, in the first video the fuel pump is heard over takeoff power, yet in video 2 you can't even hear it, just exemplifying why you can't use run of the mill video for sound checks.
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@Sender46 said in Sound Feedback:
Here's some videos of real Piper Arrows and the fuel pump isn't making that horrible intermittent whining noise in any of them:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bo_XHTSpSsE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oBiK3kRDUPs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KDPhV_YHYPIUnless those are recorded using high end pro sound equipment and then checked that they sound right compared to the real life, sounds recorded from standard devices are not a metric you'd use in development. Also just as a example of why, in the first video the fuel pump is heard over takeoff power, yet in video 2 you can't even hear it, just exemplifying why you can't use run of the mill video for sound checks.
@sluflyer06 Fair comment and I understand what you are saying, but the pump noise in the first video definitely isn't intermittent like we hear in the MSFS Arrow.
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The fuel pump is louder than it should be when the prop is at a high RPM - but I think this can be improved upon not by adjusting the audio for the fuel pump, because switching it on when the prop isn’t running sounds realistic - but by increasing the sound of the prop itself. Like I mentioned in my original post, when the prop initially starts I can barely hear it. IRL its very loud. Same with gyro windup and wind-down. I’d like to see this improved. Thank-you!
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The fuel pump is louder than it should be when the prop is at a high RPM - but I think this can be improved upon not by adjusting the audio for the fuel pump, because switching it on when the prop isn’t running sounds realistic - but by increasing the sound of the prop itself. Like I mentioned in my original post, when the prop initially starts I can barely hear it. IRL its very loud. Same with gyro windup and wind-down. I’d like to see this improved. Thank-you!
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@wuper Interesting. Are you speaking from your own real life experience and are you saying that the high pitched whine that I'm hearing fading in and out about every 3 seconds is realistic?
Here's another video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zq_Jxb5vUXwEven allowing for non-high tech sound recording, the fuel pump noise in this video is very distinctly a continuous sound (as in Just Flight's P3D Piper Arrow) without the higher pitched pulsing whining noise we hear in the MSFS Piper Arrow. It sounds to me like Just Flight got it right with their P3D Piper Arrow then changed it for the MSFS version for some reason. It's unclear whether that was intentional or not.
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@wuper Interesting. Are you speaking from your own real life experience and are you saying that the high pitched whine that I'm hearing fading in and out about every 3 seconds is realistic?
@Sender46 Im speaking from real life experience. The fuel pump sound actually can use a little work now that I pay more attention to it - but you see in the videos you linked, how quiet the MSFS version is compared to irl. Even at idle, the prop sounds like its almost off and i can barely hear gyro and battery. Thank you
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I find the aircraft sounds of the Piper Arrow III absolutely stellar, especially with headphones on for the added effect.
