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  • pedropolakP Offline
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    Today I've got involved on studing a little of NADP, and just as a curiosity during my test on the new update I've tryied to apply some of it.
    First off all, ACCEL and THR RED now work better, so thanks for JF group.
    Here I'd like to take my first note, the F100 latest update does not accept ACCEL or THR RED bellow 1000' AGL, as per the real default aircraft.
    However also from the real bird and from the manual, as an airline optional those altitudes could be lowered to 800' AGL.

    As the AOM says at 3.2.3:
    "Optional 2, LSK 4R and 5R (EO ACCEL and EO THR RED) default to 800' AGL."
    "Optional 3, LSK 2R, 3R, and 4R (THR RED, ACCEL and EO ACCEL) default to 800' AGL."

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    So kindly asking, at this moment, values bellow 1000' returns OUT OF RANGE messages, so allowing us to insert values down to 800' AGL (even leaving 1000' as default) into the ACCEL and THR RED heights would permit us to simulate more company SOPs, and todays NADP procedures.

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      Now a second topic on the same subject.
      While studing Noise abatement but specific into the Fokker application I've noticed a section of the manual called NAP - Noise Abatement Profile, wich apparently a mode used back in the day to comply with noise restrictions.
      Didn't fully understood if that was an optional or a "retrofit" or update launched for the newest F100s.
      But seeing that it adds new capabilities and even a new Vertical mode to the Flight mode panel, that'd be a really cool feature to see as an optional on just flight F100. F100s only as the manuasl says:

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      Latest this example image that show the FMP with this extra button:

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      • pedropolakP pedropolak

        Now a second topic on the same subject.
        While studing Noise abatement but specific into the Fokker application I've noticed a section of the manual called NAP - Noise Abatement Profile, wich apparently a mode used back in the day to comply with noise restrictions.
        Didn't fully understood if that was an optional or a "retrofit" or update launched for the newest F100s.
        But seeing that it adds new capabilities and even a new Vertical mode to the Flight mode panel, that'd be a really cool feature to see as an optional on just flight F100. F100s only as the manuasl says:

        image.png

        Latest this example image that show the FMP with this extra button:

        image.png

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        @pedropolak

        Great suggestions! Is there any possibility of this being implemented in future updates?

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        • MarkM Offline
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          Thank you for the feedback. Typically, we simulate a configuration of an aircraft for which we have the most reference material. The reference material we have used for the F70 & F100 Professional lists a minimum of 1,000ft AGL for both the THR RED and ACCEL fields and doesn't feature the NAP mode, so that is how we end up with the simulated configuration.

          There are no plans at the moment to add these additional NAP functions, but I have logged this on our internal trackers for future consideration.

          Mark - Just Flight

          Just Flight Development Assistant

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            What does NAP button even do, out of curiosity ?

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              Thank you for the feedback. Typically, we simulate a configuration of an aircraft for which we have the most reference material. The reference material we have used for the F70 & F100 Professional lists a minimum of 1,000ft AGL for both the THR RED and ACCEL fields and doesn't feature the NAP mode, so that is how we end up with the simulated configuration.

              There are no plans at the moment to add these additional NAP functions, but I have logged this on our internal trackers for future consideration.

              Mark - Just Flight

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              @Mark Thanks for the good work and for the attention!

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              • G Genista

                What does NAP button even do, out of curiosity ?

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                @Genista So from the manuals, NA (Noise abatement) button activates this mode called NAP, noise abatement profile, that essentially is a vertical mode activated.
                And in fact it does limit the engine power in orde to reduce noise, by:

                • Inhibiting Flex EPR, and changing it to NEPR (Noise EPR)
                • Activates NA on the Flight mode anunciator, that comands the Flight Director to initiate during the takeoff a rotation of 3deg/sec until it achieves a pitch of 22deg or a speed of V2+10kt, wichever comes first.
                • At 400ft (lower than any possible selected THR RED) by manual selection of CLB THR reduces pitch and power even further to achieve lower noise leves.
                • At ACCEL ALT selection of PROF or LVLCH reverts to a normal acceleration (250kt) and continues normal climb.
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