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HOLD is a mess

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  • AlexEtzA Offline
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    Hello,

    I tried to execute a non-published hold inbound LFBD LMG2L instructed by IVAO ATC (MARRE FL240 RIGHT TURN 1min30), I initially set up the speed to be 210kts then decided to change the hold speed to 240kts before starting first turn, the aircraft had huge issue to fly the hold, it made a very shallow right turn before trying to catch an imaginary nav on the left (in downwind, so I had to select heading to force it into the right turn back to MARRE), then when I tried to re-programmed it while turning right (as it was totally off set), selected direct to MARRE, it removed the whole approach setup and bugged out the hold by becoming a square that the airplane kept overshoot 😕 the square allows the aircraft to fly the hold after a few pattern but in a very innacurate behavior (it keeps trying to catch up with 90° nav turn so the flight path looks like a giant peanut, see image bellow).

    Screenshot 2026-06-28 221000.png
    Screenshot 2026-06-28 222155.png

    Alex
    F28, F70/100, A320, B737, B777 & DH8D sim-pilot

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    • AlexEtzA AlexEtz

      Hello,

      I tried to execute a non-published hold inbound LFBD LMG2L instructed by IVAO ATC (MARRE FL240 RIGHT TURN 1min30), I initially set up the speed to be 210kts then decided to change the hold speed to 240kts before starting first turn, the aircraft had huge issue to fly the hold, it made a very shallow right turn before trying to catch an imaginary nav on the left (in downwind, so I had to select heading to force it into the right turn back to MARRE), then when I tried to re-programmed it while turning right (as it was totally off set), selected direct to MARRE, it removed the whole approach setup and bugged out the hold by becoming a square that the airplane kept overshoot 😕 the square allows the aircraft to fly the hold after a few pattern but in a very innacurate behavior (it keeps trying to catch up with 90° nav turn so the flight path looks like a giant peanut, see image bellow).

      Screenshot 2026-06-28 221000.png
      Screenshot 2026-06-28 222155.png

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      jvtbalds
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      @AlexEtz

      I attempted two holding patterns during an approach yesterday and also experienced very poor execution from the aircraft, particularly on parallel and teardrop entries. Direct entries weren't as problematic, but honestly, it's surprising to see such a glaring error in an add-on of this level.

      It makes you wonder how no one noticed something this basic during the beta tests.

      FYI, I've already submitted a support ticket to Just Flight reporting this inconsistency.

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        I agree with both of you. That holding profile does not look right at all.

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          Same happened here, in all cases, published and non published holds, direct, paralel, drop entries, L turns, R turns
          I'd say that's a basic for this level of aircraft...

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            Just wanted to share a very specific example of the holding pattern issues some of us have been discussing, in case anyone else can replicate it or has seen something similar.

            I was flying the ILS X approach for RWY 15 down here at my home base in Curitiba (SBCT). I executed a missed approach, and initially, the LNAV tracked the profile perfectly towards the CT171 missed approach holding fix.

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            However, upon reaching CT171, the system completely failed to establish the hold. Even worse, instead of initiating the published left-hand turns, the aircraft inexplicably banked to the right. After that wrong turn, it completely ignored all time constraints for the holding legs and essentially just flew in endless, uncoordinated circles.

            Screenshot (1053).png

            It seems the LNAV logic completely breaks down during this specific transition. Bizarre.

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