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    micstatic
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    I'm going to hold off buying this until full functionality with hardware CDU is added. It's been something that has frustrated me with the RJ Professional and I hardly fly it currently as it's the only 3rd party aircraft I own that doesn't have this functionality. I consider it a must have feature now.

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      We don't natively support any external FMS hardware at this time; however, software such as SPAD.neXt can be used to control buttons via Lvars.

      We do recognise that FMS hardware has become more accessible to larger parts of the community in recent years, and supporting that hardware in our products is something that we have logged on our internal feature request trackers for evaluation.

      Mark - Just Flight

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      fabo.sk
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      @Mark That's good to hear.

      Would you be able to make the screen data available, for 3rd party tools to be abe to display them on the MCDU?

      Text and formatting instructions would be necessary, so it could just be a single read-only var, or a a var per line, containing text.

      If you'd like, I can forward you the spec of MobiFlight driver input, though of course community can build a translation layer as long as you are able to export the output.

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        rodmg
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        I created an account on this forum for the purpose of making it clear that display output for external hardware like the WW MCDU is an essential feature missing in this wonderful product. PLEASE! Make it happen!

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          rodmg
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          Please @Mark, make it happen. We really need the external display output for hardware integration. It is a huge missing feature in this wonderful product.

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            ScotchMist
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            There is a post here on how to get the display variables with SPAD.Next - it will need a little conversion to other tools however the variables will remain the same:

            https://community.justflight.com/post/51540

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              esaahonen
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              The MCDU display export feature would add significant value to this aircraft and would likely attract new customers as well, as many users who rely heavily on this hardware simply won't buy the aircraft unless it supports it.

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                There is a post here on how to get the display variables with SPAD.Next - it will need a little conversion to other tools however the variables will remain the same:

                https://community.justflight.com/post/51540

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                micstatic
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                @ScotchMist correct me if I'm wrong. I'm a spad user also. We could always code our MCP type devices to display. The problem is with the MCDU/CDU displays. That's the one we are unable to use on all just flight aircraft.

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                  You're correct in regards the MCDU however there was FCU mention earlier so thought I'd cross reference as that post slips down the list very quickly...

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                    I was really hoping that the F100 would have it considering it has a reasonably modern FMS. This was already requested for the RJ and I can understand that with that plane already released it was not going to be developed, but for the Fokker it would be really nice to get. With a couple of hundred Australian Dollars for a Winwing FMS it’s definitely not just for the cockpit builder and even planes like the CRJ support it even though they are not considered top tear. Anyway, I am not sure what is involved, but I am sure you can sort it out if it would get the focus and priority on the list. In the end if people spend a lot of money for hardware, they will check what planes can support it especially with so many great addons coming to the community

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                      OverSpeed
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                      I have the winwing FCU displays working fine in spad, albeit with a lot more work than most planes require.

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                        Jamie G
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                        So, not sure if this is of use, but the first Mobiflight profile for Winctrl hardware has been released on flightsim.to:

                        https://flightsim.to/addon/111120/mobiflight-winctrl-fcu-efis-throttle-profile-for-justflight-fokker-70-100

                        Also, they're asking in the Winctrl dc for feedback re them adding support for the Fokkers:

                        Maybe jump in there and let them know you want it:

                        https://discord.com/channels/1444993890355511326/1521266758462210069

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                          IanB2469
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                          I’ve commented on the thread on discord.

                          This is the problem with things like winctrl. The deeper you get into hardware the more limited (potentially) your range of aircraft becomes!

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                            rodmg
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                            There is no problem at all with hardware. We have tools like Spad.Next, Mobiflight, Axis and Ohs, etc to make it work. All we need is that developers make the variables and data available for configuration - which sadly Just Flight has not yet fully implemented.

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                              micstatic
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                              Yeah. The only aircraft (out of many) that I own and can't fully use my hardware is the RJ Pro. If this feature was added I would gladly purchase the Fokker. But no interest in flying with a mouse right now

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                                neinnunb
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                                For anyone interested, I created a profile for the new WinCtrl TCAS in Spad Next (as of right now, you'll need to enter the Beta channel in Spad Next to use it) Snippet 17363.

                                The display was quite a challenge to get right.

                                https://youtu.be/eonsUzKxeZk?si=ErZZtOhq7z1gy3Aq

                                @storemaster said in Hardware support:

                                is there already existing or planned hardware support (i.e. winctrl) for FCU

                                I also created a WinCtrl FCU profile. Snippet for that one is: 17282

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                                  We don't natively support any external FMS hardware at this time; however, software such as SPAD.neXt can be used to control buttons via Lvars.

                                  We do recognise that FMS hardware has become more accessible to larger parts of the community in recent years, and supporting that hardware in our products is something that we have logged on our internal feature request trackers for evaluation.

                                  Mark - Just Flight

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                                  fabo.sk
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                                  @Mark Have there been any news on this?

                                  I would be more than happy to discuss what needs to be available for 3rd party devs to support WinCtrl MCDU via Mobiflight. I don't think that would be too much effort on your side.

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                                    Martyn
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                                    We're currently focused on fixes and improvements for existing functionality and features, but will investigate new features like this ASAP.

                                    Martyn - Development Manager

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                                      Gatlingorange
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                                      Second this! Would love the MCDU to work.

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                                        Mark_Hazeldine
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                                        I just wanted to add my vote for this feature. I currently don't own any Just Flight airliners, but I would like to buy both the RJ bundle and the F70/100 bundle. The problem is, once you've tried something like the Fenix A320 with the full suite of WinCTRL units, you really don't want to go back to the old way of doing everything with a mouse and keyboard. It is so immersion killing. I think I might hold off purchasing these products until support is added, because I can see myself just not flying them without it. As for Mobiflight/Spad.next, that's all great, but it is a pain to set up, and I would rather it just work out of the box. It's enough work learning how to fly the plane without having to figure out all that extra setup too.

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                                          I just wanted to add my vote for this feature. I currently don't own any Just Flight airliners, but I would like to buy both the RJ bundle and the F70/100 bundle. The problem is, once you've tried something like the Fenix A320 with the full suite of WinCTRL units, you really don't want to go back to the old way of doing everything with a mouse and keyboard. It is so immersion killing. I think I might hold off purchasing these products until support is added, because I can see myself just not flying them without it. As for Mobiflight/Spad.next, that's all great, but it is a pain to set up, and I would rather it just work out of the box. It's enough work learning how to fly the plane without having to figure out all that extra setup too.

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                                          neinnunb
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                                          @Mark_Hazeldine said in Hardware support:

                                          As for Mobiflight/Spad.next, that's all great, but it is a pain to set up, and I would rather it just work out of the box. It's enough work learning how to fly the plane without having to figure out all that extra setup too.

                                          Unless WinCtrl creates a profile in SimApp Pro for this plane, which is very unlikely, you'll have to use programs like Spad Next, Mobiflight, etc.

                                          I think the only thing that Just Flight would need to open up is access to the MCDU. You can control the plane's autopilot and everything else using WinCtrl hardware now. I already have two snippets for this plane in Spad Next. One for the FCU+Left EFIS (snippet 17282) and the other for the TCAS (snippet 17363)

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