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  • RetiredMan93231R Offline
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    @copper said in Autopilot swaying left and right of track:

    @RetiredMan93231 So the "smooth" heading hold means that it will also no longer be swaying left and right?
    Then I'd use your parameters instead of the G36 ones since those don't fix the vibration of Altitude Hold unfortunately.

    I recommend doing both, because the G36 AI.CFG fixes the VOR/LOC tracking... Start with the G36 file, then add my additional fixes to the G36 file.

    I don't see any pitch vibration after making these changes, but if you still have pitch vibration, you can also try adding this @weptburrito fix to the pitchPID parameters... https://community.justflight.com/post/8010

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    @copper Thanks for the tips this morning. Have made the changes and are looking forward to the improvements.

    Happy flying...

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    Here are some additional recommended changes that will further improve the autopilot performance...

    ai.cfg

    [STICKANDRUDDER]
    ;pitchPID = 2.0, 0.1, 5.0, 1.0, 100.0
    pitchPID = 2.0, 0.1, 2.0, 1.0, 100.0

    ;headingPID = 2.0, 0.01, 1.2, 0.2, 1.0
    headingPID = 1.0, 0.01, 1.0, 0.2, 1.0

    ;verticalSpeedPID = 0.5, 0.01, 0.35, 300.0,1000.0
    verticalSpeedPID = 1.0, 0.05, 0.2, 300.0,1000.0

    ;nav_yawPID = 0.015, 0.005, 0.001, 1.0, 360

    systems.cfg

    [AUTOPILOT]
    yaw_damper_gain =0 ;2

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    @RetiredMan93231 said in Autopilot swaying left and right of track:

    Here are some additional recommended changes that will further improve the autopilot performance...

    ai.cfg

    ;nav_yawPID = 0.015, 0.005, 0.001, 1.0, 360

    I notice that you didn't include a replacement for this line. Just checking to confirm whether that is what you intended.

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    It would generally be great to have a full STICKANDRUDDER section. Is your change based on the stock or on the G36 values?

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    @Sender46 said in Autopilot swaying left and right of track:

    @RetiredMan93231 said in Autopilot swaying left and right of track:

    Here are some additional recommended changes that will further improve the autopilot performance...

    ai.cfg

    ;nav_yawPID = 0.015, 0.005, 0.001, 1.0, 360

    I notice that you didn't include a replacement for this line. Just checking to confirm whether that is what you intended.

    Yes, this line has been commented out to completely remove this parameter...

    This change, and the change to the Yaw Damper parameter, are needed to eliminate a constant left rudder input coming from the autopilot that causes the aircraft to slip during cruise flight. This aircraft has no autopilot rudder axis, so no rudder input should occur from the autopilot.

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    @copper said in Autopilot swaying left and right of track:

    It would generally be great to have a full STICKANDRUDDER section. Is your change based on the stock or on the G36 values?

    I am using the complete AI.CFG file from the G36 as the basis for these changes...

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    @copper Thanks so much for this suggestion which worked perfectly for me too.

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    @copper said in Autopilot swaying left and right of track:

    It would generally be great to have a full STICKANDRUDDER section. Is your change based on the stock or on the G36 values?

    Here is the full [STICKANDRUDDER] section of the AI.CFG file...

    [STICKANDRUDDER]
    rudderGroundPID = 0.015, 0.001, 0.001, 1.0, 1.0 ; Pk,Ik,Dk,I boundary, D boundary
    throttleGroundPID = 1.0,0.10,10.0,10.0,20.0
    brakeDifferentialPID = 0.0, 0.0,0.0,0.0, 0.0
    throttleDifferentialPID = 0.0 ,0.0,0.0,0.0,0.0
    throttlePID = 20.0,0.50,20.0,20.0,500.0
    ;pitchPID = 2.0, 0.1, 5.0, 1.0, 100.0
    pitchPID = 2.0, 0.1, 2.0, 1.0, 100.0
    rollPID = 1.2, 0.1, 0.6, 8.0, 100.0
    ;headingPID = 2.0, 0.01, 1.2, 0.2, 1.0
    headingPID = 1.0, 0.01, 1.0, 0.2, 1.0
    ;verticalSpeedPID = 0.5, 0.01, 0.35, 300.0,1000.0
    verticalSpeedPID = 1.0, 0.05, 0.2, 300.0,1000.0
    nav_ex1PID = 3.5, 0.1, 10.0, 0.035, 50.0
    ;nav_yawPID = 0.015, 0.005, 0.001, 1.0, 360
    glideSlopePID = 4.12, 0.05, 4.5, 2.0, 60.0
    flightLevelPID = 100.0, 1.0, 10.0, 100.0, 1000.0

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    @RetiredMan93231 said in Autopilot swaying left and right of track:

    @Sender46 said in Autopilot swaying left and right of track:

    @RetiredMan93231 said in Autopilot swaying left and right of track:

    Here are some additional recommended changes that will further improve the autopilot performance...

    ai.cfg

    ;nav_yawPID = 0.015, 0.005, 0.001, 1.0, 360

    I notice that you didn't include a replacement for this line. Just checking to confirm whether that is what you intended.

    Yes, this line has been commented out to completely remove this parameter...

    This change, and the change to the Yaw Damper parameter, are needed to eliminate a constant left rudder input coming from the autopilot that causes the aircraft to slip during cruise flight. This aircraft has no autopilot rudder axis, so no rudder input should occur from the autopilot.

    Great explanation. Thank you.

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