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    Tadeus72
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    I have some other planes with state saving and there it just works (both with new releases and old ones that are multiple years old and were introduced in MSFS 2020), so I'm wondering if they are using Javascript, WASM or something entirely different to make it work. I'm just afraid that just basing on Asobo fixing it might never bring satisfactory results and something more robust and custom might be needed.

    That saying, I have no idea how planes are done, so just brainstorming here 😃

    Thank you for answering either way.

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      I found a partial solution. After the flight, if I exit the plane with Shift + C, go back to the main menu, change the plane, and re-position it at the airport. Only then do I close the simulator, and the saved data remains. I don't know why this is happening, or why I can't do it the traditional way.

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        Just done some testing among a couple of Black Square planes, it seems like the only part of state saving that still works are failures that were already triggered in the last flights. If I manually fail something and leave, it will be still failed on the next flight. But all of the rest:

        • EFB Options and all stuff connected to them
        • Hobbs Meter
        • Engine Status
        • Radios
          Are not being saved anymore. It just always shows the same one status from some time ago. From before SU4? Not sure.

        I'm wondering if the age of the components is still being counted for MTBF purposes, otherwise the whole failure system is impacted 😞

        EDIT: Can confirm the solution above. Avatar mode at the end of the flight > Main Menu > Respawn in the sim seems to be saving data, at least the EFB options, not sure about the rest.

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          Just done some testing among a couple of Black Square planes, it seems like the only part of state saving that still works are failures that were already triggered in the last flights. If I manually fail something and leave, it will be still failed on the next flight. But all of the rest:

          • EFB Options and all stuff connected to them
          • Hobbs Meter
          • Engine Status
          • Radios
            Are not being saved anymore. It just always shows the same one status from some time ago. From before SU4? Not sure.

          I'm wondering if the age of the components is still being counted for MTBF purposes, otherwise the whole failure system is impacted 😞

          EDIT: Can confirm the solution above. Avatar mode at the end of the flight > Main Menu > Respawn in the sim seems to be saving data, at least the EFB options, not sure about the rest.

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          @Tadeus72 said in No saving state:

          I'm wondering if the age of the components is still being counted for MTBF purposes, otherwise the whole failure system is impacted 😞

          It's percentage based, not tracked hour based, adjusted by your failure rate.

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          • T Tadeus72

            Just done some testing among a couple of Black Square planes, it seems like the only part of state saving that still works are failures that were already triggered in the last flights. If I manually fail something and leave, it will be still failed on the next flight. But all of the rest:

            • EFB Options and all stuff connected to them
            • Hobbs Meter
            • Engine Status
            • Radios
              Are not being saved anymore. It just always shows the same one status from some time ago. From before SU4? Not sure.

            I'm wondering if the age of the components is still being counted for MTBF purposes, otherwise the whole failure system is impacted 😞

            EDIT: Can confirm the solution above. Avatar mode at the end of the flight > Main Menu > Respawn in the sim seems to be saving data, at least the EFB options, not sure about the rest.

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            @Tadeus72 said in No saving state:

            the only part of state saving that still works are failures

            Ah yes, the system where I maintain my own (still cloud based) Javascript avionics state instead of using the recommended technique for aircraft L:Vars, which is now ignored with the rest of the aircraft's state. Thanks for confirming that this is the case. It comports with my current understanding of what's broken in the simulator, and that can be very helpful for explaining things to Asobo.

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              I found a partial solution. After the flight, if I exit the plane with Shift + C, go back to the main menu, change the plane, and re-position it at the airport. Only then do I close the simulator, and the saved data remains. I don't know why this is happening, or why I can't do it the traditional way.

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              Zwoop68
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              @dejw6 This works, thanks for the tip! 👍

              Tested this few times. It work without exiting plane (Shift+C), and also no need to change plane, you can load same flight again after ending previous flight.
              I had Notepad++ and TBM's state.cfg file open in background. Only time Notepad++ offered updated state.cfg file was when I loaded a new flight after I made some changes to planes tablet.

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                @dejw6 This works, thanks for the tip! 👍

                Tested this few times. It work without exiting plane (Shift+C), and also no need to change plane, you can load same flight again after ending previous flight.
                I had Notepad++ and TBM's state.cfg file open in background. Only time Notepad++ offered updated state.cfg file was when I loaded a new flight after I made some changes to planes tablet.

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                @Zwoop68
                Thanks for the tip about clicking "restart" once I finish my flight. It seems to fix the Save State issues on my end and also save engine hours and tablet settings.

                I just registered to this website to say this!

                Also a big thanks to Nick and amazing work on his Baron/Bonanza! Can't wait for the Caravan. My wallet is ready! Thanks again for your work.

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                  @Zwoop68
                  Thanks for the tip about clicking "restart" once I finish my flight. It seems to fix the Save State issues on my end and also save engine hours and tablet settings.

                  I just registered to this website to say this!

                  Also a big thanks to Nick and amazing work on his Baron/Bonanza! Can't wait for the Caravan. My wallet is ready! Thanks again for your work.

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                  Zwoop68
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                  @FlimsyBagel Don't thank me, thank @dejw6! Or Ramasurinen, dev of Albatross on an official MSFS forums. He wrote same tip today.

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                    Hi everyone,
                    I might be doing something wrong, but trying to follow the steps from @Zwoop68 and @dejw6. When I land from a flight:

                    1. Shift + C
                    2. ESC and restart flight?
                    3. Exit.
                      And my engine - panel state should save like it used to?
                      Thanks guys, any chance this will be fixed properly in future? As it stands, its quite the downgrade from what it used to be. Any way of having a button to save current state so that it can be loaded again on the next flight. Every single flight is now a chore, as I have to set everything back to the way I want it as it seems to have a saved a state mid-checklist...
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                      Tadeus72
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                      Shift + C was found to not be needed.

                      When you are finished with your flying just open the MSFS menu and select Restart. It will restart you in your departure airport with the properly saved state from the finished flight. Now you can do whatever you want to, exit the sim, start a new flight, whatever.

                      Works for me every time in different BKSQ planes.

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                        Shift + C was found to not be needed.

                        When you are finished with your flying just open the MSFS menu and select Restart. It will restart you in your departure airport with the properly saved state from the finished flight. Now you can do whatever you want to, exit the sim, start a new flight, whatever.

                        Works for me every time in different BKSQ planes.

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                        @Tadeus72 Thanks!

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