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    Ray Fry
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    It appears TG is now out of early access and final.
    From 48,000 flight plans Pre-1.1.1.5 to 20,000 in final release.1.1.1.8.

    P3Dv5.1 HF.

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      martin11
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      I think it will be improved by the following updates, as Rich recently mentioned that half of the flight database needs to be completed. When the flight database is ready, it could significantly increase traffic.

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        Strange....if you decompile the 'default' TrafficGlobalCargo.bgl (2.55Mb) that TG copies over to your scenery/world/scenery folder [FSX-SE], these GA are added to the end of the Aircraft list...
        AC#60,484,"JFAI_757_200_RR_TNT"
        AC#61,484,"JFAI_757_200_PW_UPS"
        AC#62,126,"JFAI_GA_Piper_Cherokee_140_N40734"
        AC#63,224,"JF_AI_GA_C208_Grand_Caravan_G-EACP"
        AC#64,195,"JF_AI_GA_Baron_R-RAS"
        AC#65,176,"JF_AI_GA_BonanzaB36_2-LOVE"
        AC#66,126,"JFAI_GA_Piper_Cherokee_140_D-BNJM"
        AC#67,164,"JF_AI_GA_C208_Grand_Caravan_G-CPSS"
        AC#68,164,"JF_AI_GA_C208_Grand_Caravan_G-AUZZ"
        AC#69,464,"JFAI_GA_Cessna_Citation_550_G-JBLZ"
        along with a few flightplans for them....
        :question_mark: :question_mark: :exclamation_question_mark:

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        • R Ray Fry

          It appears TG is now out of early access and final.
          From 48,000 flight plans Pre-1.1.1.5 to 20,000 in final release.1.1.1.8.

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          Rich
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          @Ray-Fry said in v1.1.1.8:

          From 48,000 flight plans Pre-1.1.1.5 to 20,000 in final release.1.1.1.8.

          Yes, but that isn't the full story. In those databases, lots of those flights were the legs flown by an aircraft to a destination later in the day. For example, if an airline operated a return flight between Stansted and Glasgow that departed Stansted at 6am, then repeated it at 2pm and then again at 10pm, that would have appeared as 6 different flights. Not only that but the 6am flight would have remained sat at the gate whilst another aircraft flies the 2pm leg and then waits at the gate until 2pm the next day whilst another aircraft flies the 10pm leg.
          Now the database only lists that flight once, and the same aircraft will fly back and forth during the day completing all the legs itself.
          That means that yes the database is smaller, but you're getting less dormant aircraft filling up parking spaces and more legs being flown.

          @kieranja said in v1.1.1.8:

          Still no tui.

          I thought they had been added in the last build? I'll double check.

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            @Ray-Fry said in v1.1.1.8:

            From 48,000 flight plans Pre-1.1.1.5 to 20,000 in final release.1.1.1.8.

            Yes, but that isn't the full story. In those databases, lots of those flights were the legs flown by an aircraft to a destination later in the day. For example, if an airline operated a return flight between Stansted and Glasgow that departed Stansted at 6am, then repeated it at 2pm and then again at 10pm, that would have appeared as 6 different flights. Not only that but the 6am flight would have remained sat at the gate whilst another aircraft flies the 2pm leg and then waits at the gate until 2pm the next day whilst another aircraft flies the 10pm leg.
            Now the database only lists that flight once, and the same aircraft will fly back and forth during the day completing all the legs itself.
            That means that yes the database is smaller, but you're getting less dormant aircraft filling up parking spaces and more legs being flown.

            @kieranja said in v1.1.1.8:

            Still no tui.

            I thought they had been added in the last build? I'll double check.

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            martin11
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            @Rich
            Thanks for the information.
            I wanted to ask when there will be increased traffic at airports as there are few planes on many and mostly the same airlines. For example, Vienna contains 15 aircraft and Prague less than 10 aircraft.
            Rich if he could increase the number of Czech Airlines flights in the flight database, as they have a minimum of flights compared to older versions.
            Martin

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              kieranja
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              They are in the data base but no matter what I try i cant get them to shown in fsxse.
              I have done the complete traffic database option a few times and have 21351 flights generated.
              But tui will not show at all

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                They are in the data base but no matter what I try i cant get them to shown in fsxse.
                I have done the complete traffic database option a few times and have 21351 flights generated.
                But tui will not show at all

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                martin11
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                @kieranja

                The same problem is with other airlines. I think we should wait for an update that will solve this problem.
                Martin

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                  @kieranja

                  The same problem is with other airlines. I think we should wait for an update that will solve this problem.
                  Martin

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                  kieranja
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                  @martin11 the update just now was supposed to add tui. Its added them in text but they just don't show.

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                    @martin11 the update just now was supposed to add tui. Its added them in text but they just don't show.

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                    martin11
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                    @kieranja

                    Yes, this is also the case for other airlines as well as for some types of aircraft, which are added to the flight database but are not shown in the simulator.
                    It is necessary to wait for the update which the airlines will actually show in the simulator.

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                      @kieranja

                      Yes, this is also the case for other airlines as well as for some types of aircraft, which are added to the flight database but are not shown in the simulator.
                      It is necessary to wait for the update which the airlines will actually show in the simulator.

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                      kieranja
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                      @martin11 I'm confussed. As that is the update. 1.1.1.8 it was out last week ish.

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                        @martin11 I'm confussed. As that is the update. 1.1.1.8 it was out last week ish.

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                        kieranja
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                        @kieranja I manged to get tui to show but jet 2 is not there and soon as I take them off the excluded list tui go missing again alone with virgin and some more.

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                          @kieranja I manged to get tui to show but jet 2 is not there and soon as I take them off the excluded list tui go missing again alone with virgin and some more.

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                          martin11
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                          @kieranja

                          Yes, in update 1.1.1.8, TUI was added only to the flight database, but it is not shown at airports. This issue will definitely be fixed by future updates. For example, Thomas Cook began to show up in earlier updates and was added to flight databases long ago.

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                            kieranja
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                            Right heres what I have todo to get planes maybe something I doing wrong. If I install traffic I get a few planes but no easy jet, no jet2 airports are empty like Liverpool, Birmingham.etc.
                            So if I go on complie data base in traffic and click fsx steam, and use exclude list set up i then gain jet 2 and easy jet and also have busy airports. All jetways are taken away including Heathrow which has none then after the complie.

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                              gronden
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                              LIML appears completely empty of flights

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                                LIML appears completely empty of flights

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                                Derek
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                                @gronden

                                I suspect there aren't any flights in the database. From Wikipedia:

                                "From 27 July to 27 October 2019, Linate was closed for runway resurfacing and terminal upgrades. The latter project is expected to continue after the airport's reopening, concluding some time in 2021. During this closure, most flights were rerouted to Malpensa, displacing approximately 2.5 million passengers."

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                                  Ray Fry
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                                  No flight plans in TG for LIML, if you start TG then open traffic global flight plans in the main window select departure airport tab listing them form A-Z, scroll down to check any airport code to see if it contains plans for your airport, there are less plans in the database now than before.

                                  P3Dv5.1 HF.

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                                    No flight plans in TG for LIML, if you start TG then open traffic global flight plans in the main window select departure airport tab listing them form A-Z, scroll down to check any airport code to see if it contains plans for your airport, there are less plans in the database now than before.

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                                    @Ray-Fry said in v1.1.1.8:

                                    No flight plans in TG for LIML, if you start TG then open traffic global flight plans in the main window select departure airport tab listing them form A-Z, scroll down to check any airport code to see if it contains plans for your airport,

                                    That will be because the database was compiled in 2019:

                                    From Wikipedia:

                                    "From 27 July to 27 October 2019, Linate was closed for runway resurfacing and terminal upgrades. The latter project is expected to continue after the airport's reopening, concluding some time in 2021. During this closure, most flights were rerouted to Malpensa, displacing approximately 2.5 million passengers."

                                    there are less plans in the database now than before.

                                    This shouldn't have any relevance to LIML (see above) or the density of traffic in the game. Richard explained this earlier:

                                    Yes, but that isn't the full story. In those databases, lots of those flights were the legs flown by an aircraft to a destination later in the day. For example, if an airline operated a return flight between Stansted and Glasgow that departed Stansted at 6am, then repeated it at 2pm and then again at 10pm, that would have appeared as 6 different flights. Not only that but the 6am flight would have remained sat at the gate whilst another aircraft flies the 2pm leg and then waits at the gate until 2pm the next day whilst another aircraft flies the 10pm leg.
                                    Now the database only lists that flight once, and the same aircraft will fly back and forth during the day completing all the legs itself.
                                    That means that yes the database is smaller, but you're getting less dormant aircraft filling up parking spaces and more legs being flown.

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                                      Ray Fry
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                                      Sadly Rich you will not see this in TG now this was December 2019.
                                      https://www.flickr.com/photos/154944674@N05/46521967742/in/dateposted-public/
                                      You can sit at Heathrow for 10 mins and you may see one aircraft landing or taking off or none at all depending on the time of day, i could cross the channel and see 30 aircraft on my TCAS inside 40 mile range not anymore,
                                      And removing the error screen only means you have to check the compiler errors in the compiler .
                                      https://www.flickr.com/photos/154944674@N05/50508387388/in/dateposted-public/
                                      That put a lot of plans that will not load in the sim 7,000 out 20,000 not used.

                                      P3Dv5.1 HF.

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                                        martin11
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                                        The situation is similar at many European airports.
                                        For example, at Frankfurt Airport there are aircraft departures every 5 minutes but arrivals every 30 minutes.

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                                        • RichR Rich

                                          @Ray-Fry said in v1.1.1.8:

                                          From 48,000 flight plans Pre-1.1.1.5 to 20,000 in final release.1.1.1.8.

                                          Yes, but that isn't the full story. In those databases, lots of those flights were the legs flown by an aircraft to a destination later in the day. For example, if an airline operated a return flight between Stansted and Glasgow that departed Stansted at 6am, then repeated it at 2pm and then again at 10pm, that would have appeared as 6 different flights. Not only that but the 6am flight would have remained sat at the gate whilst another aircraft flies the 2pm leg and then waits at the gate until 2pm the next day whilst another aircraft flies the 10pm leg.
                                          Now the database only lists that flight once, and the same aircraft will fly back and forth during the day completing all the legs itself.
                                          That means that yes the database is smaller, but you're getting less dormant aircraft filling up parking spaces and more legs being flown.

                                          @kieranja said in v1.1.1.8:

                                          Still no tui.

                                          I thought they had been added in the last build? I'll double check.

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                                          martin11
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                                          @Rich
                                          I found the last two major European airlines missing in the database:
                                          Scandinavian Airlines and Norwegian Airlines (missing 737).

                                          My last question is how many updates will come in order for Traffic Global to be final?Thanks,
                                          Martin

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