What FS Traffic *CAN* do that FSLTL Can't
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I can confirm everything that B3 Burner says about it. I've waited a long time for a program that is as flexible as FS Traffic. It's not perfect yet, but I hope that the developers will work with Asobo to get the problems under control.
Actually, it's exactly the same discussion as with the weather engine of MSFS. The problem: MSFS weather is always live weather. But I need historical weather and this is where xEnviro comes in.
I don't have the perfect solution yet, but it works quite well:
When it occurs to me that I want to fly a morning flight from EDDH to EDDL in northern Germany in the evening, I use the historical weather from xEnviro. Then I plan a flight in Simbrief with historical weather. I get the weather data from Active Sky XP. The weather snapshot from Active Sky XP can easily be used in Pilot2ATC to fly from Hamburg to Düsseldorf with the prevailing air traffic at the time thanks to FS Traffic and weather with full ATC support. You can try anything, it works!
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Good read.
That's actually also my main reason to go with FST (if it works), the ability to inject "historical" traffic.
I usually only have time to go flight simmin' near midnight, so live traffic at that time doesn't really satisfy my needs, as I'm primarily fly real life flights/routes/times. I have a similar issue with weather. Until we finally get historical weather in MSFS (like activesky provided for P3D) I'm stuck with "live" weather that doesn't reflect the temperatures etc. on a - let's say - noon summer flight with 38°C OAT, as it will always be much colder at midnight (when I fly).
So I hope FST will further improve an iron out some bugs etc. as historical/flexible traffic is something I really like.Cheers
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@disco79stu xEnviro 2020 for MSFS delivers historical weather. And it is in sync with AS.
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now with FSTL injecting FST models, that difference is gone. Their discord channel is also full of useful info
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But as with everything.... JF will improve it and it will evolve.
If nothing else, that is a given.
Having said that I'll wait until it does improve.
I currently use default Ai traffic at very low levels... like 20 percent, as it really hammers the CPU at big airports.
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@fugazi74 The difference has not gone away, since each program works in a different way.
FSLT uses FR24 as a source to inject traffic in "real time".
FS Traffic uses flight plans from an internal database to inject IA traffic at the departure and destination airport and the route between them. (Although I have observed that the number of flights between the route is very low).As they are two different solutions it is difficult to compare them. The only thing we could compare is the quality of models and textures and their performance in the simulator.
For me, at the moment, they are complementary. Sometimes it is better to use one than the other.
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@b3_burner said in What FS Traffic *CAN* do that FSLTL Can't:
FST on the other hand, can give you traffic any time of day you choose, (just so long as you start the simulator with the clock already set to your chosen time of day-- changing the time with the slider in the on-screen weather menu, while in the game-- won't change traffic at all). You want another time of day, you gotta' go out of the sim and come back in with the new time. Okay, a bit of a PITA, but I'm sure they are working on it to the point that one day, that will not be a factor.
You have to leave your flight and go back to the flight map and reset the time there, there is no need to leave the sim though, I have checked.
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@digfs the sweet spot for me is using FSLTL injector with FST models, they offer support for this and according to several yt videos it appears to be the best solution across the board. I've deleted all AIG and FSLTL models that FST carries anyway.
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@fugazi74 said in What FS Traffic *CAN* do that FSLTL Can't:
@digfs the sweet spot for me is using FSLTL injector with FST models, they offer support for this and according to several yt videos it appears to be the best solution across the board. I've deleted all AIG and FSLTL models that FST carries anyway.
Yes I know. I've tried it too, but this has nothing to do with the previous conversation.
The internal functioning of both programs is completely different. FSLT's injector injects the simulator flights by reading the data through the FR24 app, while FS Traffic has pre-arranged flight plans for each airline, based on the day and time you fly. Therefore, a fair comparison cannot be made.