trim issues

scoobyx

there was an older post mentioning some issues people were having with trimming the hawk for level flight. it appears as though it was supposed to be fixed in a patch that would have come out a few months ago.

i just picked up the hawk and really like the plane! so well done.

unfortunately, i am having big problems trying to get the plane trimmed out for level flight. it doesn't matter what the flight level is or where i have my throttles set to, i can't control the trim on this beast. it will settle for a very short amount of time and then it will either start climbing or descending in pretty dramatic fashion which means i am religiously managing the trim from start to finish.

is this really how this jet is in real life? i would have assumed a platform used by an aerobatics team would not have this issue and while i don't expect cessna 172 stability this just doesn't seem right.

i am using a hc bravo with the trim wheel. i attempted to unmap that and only use the buttons on the hc alpha yoke. neither one relieves this issue. i also attempted to just use the keyboard commands (numpad 1/7) and am experiencing the same behavior.

i have gone in and lowered the elevator trim effectiveness number from 1 -> 0.5 in the flightmodel.cfg file and that has helped temper the swings quite a bit but it still will not remain in level flight regardless. it's like i am always missing that middle point that will provide some equilibrium.

aside from purchasing something like AAO (which was mentioned on the msfs forums) is there anything else i can do, or am i doing something wrong?

scoobyx

quick update on this - i ended up changing out my controls from the honeycomb alpha and bravo and went back to an old stick and throttle i used for dcs. i mapped the trim (nose up / nose down) to one of the switches on the stick. things seem to be working quite a bit better. the plane definitely won't go into a nice stable trim but it's far more docile and controllable compared to what i was trying to deal with on the hc bravo and the trim wheel. and what shouldn't come as any surprise, it's nicer flying the hawk with a proper stick versus the yoke that i use for all my other planes.

anyhow, unless anyone has any other ideas, i am considering this case closed for me, at least.