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    foxtrot ostrich
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    The empty weight shown in the flight bag of the 300 variant appears to be over 1000kg heavier than is mentioned in the documentation provided by justflight with the aircraft. Is this supposed to be the case? I’ve not checked the other variants to see if they have the same thing.

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    @foxtrot-ostrich said in 300 variant empty weight:

    The empty weight shown in the flight bag of the 300 variant appears to be over 1000kg heavier than is mentioned in the documentation provided by justflight with the aircraft. Is this supposed to be the case? I’ve not checked the other variants to see if they have the same thing.

    Being puzzled by the same thing. The weights don't seem to correspond to expectation or calculation. Trying to build a Simbrief profile is out of reach atm.

    Sledge

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    Martyn JF Staff
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    Here's a reply I put together for a similar query elsewhere:

    ZFW includes the weight of the flight and cabin crew, and those payloads don't change even when unloading all the pax and cargo as they are considered mandatory.

    What might also confuse people if they are looking at the flight_model.cfg or MSFS payload manager is the engine weight. To get the true empty weight, they need to add the four engine weights (1336 lb x 4) to the value of 'empty_weight' in the cfg. That is done automatically by the EFB, e.g. in the 146-200:

    'Empty_weight' in cfg = 48,886 lb
    Engine weight = 5,344 lb (1336 lb x 4)
    True empty weight = 54,230 lb (as shown on the EFB as 'EMPTY WEIGHT')

    Flight crew weight = 170 lb x 2

    Cabin crew weight = 340 lb + 130 lb
    Total crew weight = 810 lb

    ZFW = 54,230 lb + 810 lb = 55,040 lb (as shown on the EFB as 'ZERO FUEL WEIGHT')

    GROSS WEIGHT then equals ZFW + TOTAL FUEL WEIGHT

    I think the manual weights were based on an FCOM but they vary between airlines/operators. We will update the manual weights to reflect our flight model values.

    Martyn - Development Manager

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    Melon
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    @martyn Does this mean Simbrief doesn't take cabin/flight crew into account for its weights?

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    @martyn so the two compared weights were the ones in the manual and the ones on the justflight provided efb not anything to do with msfs weight management. I’m not about the maths I just need the correct numbers to stick on a sim brief profile so I don’t get weights mismatched. Thanks for the reply.

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