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Unlocking the Primer and GPS Problem

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    Piper28Dennis83
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    Hello everybody,

    My first problem is, I cannot unlock the Primer in the Piper 28-161. The turning wheel shows at the clickspot but when I scroll it, it just zooms in and out.

    The second Problem is when I want to change the Nav1 Frequency in the GPS the dialer stays on the radio frequencies, although I try to push the bottom left button to select the Nav Frequencies.

    Does anyone have the same problems or has anyone solved that problem?

    Best regards

    Dennis Lahyani

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      Hello everybody,

      My first problem is, I cannot unlock the Primer in the Piper 28-161. The turning wheel shows at the clickspot but when I scroll it, it just zooms in and out.

      The second Problem is when I want to change the Nav1 Frequency in the GPS the dialer stays on the radio frequencies, although I try to push the bottom left button to select the Nav Frequencies.

      Does anyone have the same problems or has anyone solved that problem?

      Best regards

      Dennis Lahyani

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      Piper28Dennis83
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      I solved the problem with the GPS but I still can't unlock the Primer

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        I solved the problem with the GPS but I still can't unlock the Primer

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        lilycrose
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        @piper28dennis83 Try moving the Carb Heat, if it won't move, then it's the same problem lots of people are having. Escape and restarting the flight should fix it temporarily, it's been a problem for quite a while, hopefully JF will fix it in an update soon.

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          @piper28dennis83 Try moving the Carb Heat, if it won't move, then it's the same problem lots of people are having. Escape and restarting the flight should fix it temporarily, it's been a problem for quite a while, hopefully JF will fix it in an update soon.

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          Piper28Dennis83
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          @katchaplin Thanks for your answer. I'll try that.
          Carb Heat works fine. Never had a problem with it.
          But the Primer never worked a long as I have the aircraft.

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            jmarkows
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            Switch to Legacy cockpit interaction, under General Options --> Accessibility.

            The Pipers still struggle with the new system introduced in whatever Sim Update.

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              BlinkNFG
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              Hi,

              I too am unable to unlock the primer.

              I have tried switching to legacy cockpit interaction under Accessibility but that has no effect.

              When I hover over the primer with my mouse it says PRIMER (LOCKED). If I left click the mouse or if I hold the left mouse button down and move the mouse nothing happens.

              What am I doing wrong?

              Many thanks

              Jon

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                Hi,

                I too am unable to unlock the primer.

                I have tried switching to legacy cockpit interaction under Accessibility but that has no effect.

                When I hover over the primer with my mouse it says PRIMER (LOCKED). If I left click the mouse or if I hold the left mouse button down and move the mouse nothing happens.

                What am I doing wrong?

                Many thanks

                Jon

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                BlinkNFG
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                I managed to figure it out - the mouse wheel works!

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                  I managed to figure it out - the mouse wheel works!

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                  Wijnand
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                  @BlinkNFG Hello, I still hjave rthis problem. What did you do to get the primer working?

                  regards,

                  Wijnand (EKBK)

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                    HansDeVlieger
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                    Hi,
                    I can't unlock or pull out / push in the primer knob either. The sounds are there, the knob itself shows a slight vibrating left/right but the result of the priming action seems to be OK (at least the engine starts without hesitation). I just purchased the Warrior (from the Just Flight web store) last week. For now I'm in MSFS2020 and installed version 0.4.0 (tablet shows v4.0). Use of Legacy or Lock interaction system makes no difference. Left/right mouse button or scroll wheel (click or scroll) doesn't change this, the knob doesn't move as intended. I will check the '24 version later, after the first patch.

                    I almost forgot to mention that I instantly loved this plane. I have both Arrows too, but this one feels so natural, so controllable. The team at Just Flight did an excellent job, I'm impressed!

                    I just read about the v4.1 patch coming tomorrow. I'll check that out.

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                      Mark
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                      Hi all,

                      Please note that this thread is several years old and the primer logic in the Warrior has changed in subsequent updates to the product, so any previous "fixes" may not be applicable with the latest version of the product.

                      In v0.4.0, we added support for various primer control assignments (‘ENGINE PRIMER’ / ‘TOGGLE PRIMERS’ / ‘TOGGLE PRIMER 1’). We would recommend double-checking for any control assignment conflicts that may exist with those.

                      Mark - Just Flight

                      Just Flight Development Assistant

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                        HansDeVlieger
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                        Hi Mark,

                        Thank you for this quick answer. Meanwhile I have been fiddling around in SPAD.neXt to see if I could get it working. And yes, with succes! I didn't try the control assignments that you mentioned above (yet), but I did succeed binding a Honeycomb Bravo switch as follows:

                        Switched ON Set LVAR:LEFT_LOWER_prime to 2
                        Switched OFF Set LVAR:LEFT_LOWER_prime to 1

                        This works as expected, including the correct unlock + slide-out / slide-in + lock knob animations.

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                          HansDeVlieger
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                          I checked the above described bindings in MSFS2024 as well, and can confirm it works perfectly well in the '24 version too.

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                            Martyn
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                            We've found and fixed the issue with clicking the primer, and that'll be included in the next update. In the meantime you should be able to use any of the three primer control assignments to trigger the primer.

                            Martyn - Development Manager

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