JF Arrow III Rudder Trim Issues

RetiredMan93231

@gabe777 Yes, these keyboard trim commands will work in any aircraft that is configured with rudder trim... The aircraft flight_model.cfg file must have a rudder_trim_limit specified for it to work.

Gabe777

@retiredman93231

Oh.... I believe in the P3D model all 3 trims could be "faked".

Does this mean a simple hack to the aircraft.cfg file would give me a bunch of trims if not already specified in the config file ?

I hate that MSFS is such a hidden, protected system. It's so hard to know what can be found... let alone adjusted !

RetiredMan93231

@gabe777 Yes...

Gabe777

@retiredman93231

Hi again.

What's you take on the rudder system in MSFS ?

I'M confused as the Auto rudder on takeoff setting suggests it doesn't use auto rudder in flight.

But coordinated turns do seem to be pretty automated regardless of the takeoff setting.

Many complain about sudden banks/instability immediately after takeoff, suggesting it may be due to the transition from auto rudder ON to disabling it ?

Also, I see rudder and aileron trim settings, but no center or reset trim settings. Some say there isn't one.
.... this isn't helped by the fact there are no central markings on the rudder trim in the Arrow 4.

Would appreciate your input if you have time.

Thnx.

RetiredMan93231

@gabe777 I never use the auto rudder feature in MSFS, because I like maximum realism when I fly and this aircraft does not have yaw damping. See my comments above about the rudder trim control markings and the keyboard command for centering it... I don't think there is a centering command for the aileron trim.

Gabe777

@retiredman93231 Hi.

So there is no auto rudder in MSFS? You do need to coordinate turns, cos it seems to be pretty stabke during turns with no rudder input.

RetiredMan93231

@gabe777 This aircraft has differential ailerons (greater deflection up than down) to reduce the adverse yaw, and as a result it needs very little rudder input for coordinated turns.

Gabe777

@retiredman93231 Oh that's interesting. Thnx.

But in general dies MSFS employ an auto rudder to make it more accessible or do some aircraft require it for coordination?

I find it surprising that there doesn't appear to be an AutoRudder option, other than during takeoff, unlike P3D and FSX which did have the option.

RetiredMan93231

@gabe777 Some aircraft, like the big commercial jets, have "Yaw Damping" which will atuomatically apply the required rudder input for coordinated turns. It is usually turned on/off with a switch.

Gabe777

@retiredman93231 Yes my PMDG 747 has one in P3d.

I have to disable auto rudder.... in tge settings. And the steering tiller is used for rollout until around 80 knots when it switches to rudder.

This is the problem... MSFS doesn't seem to know what it's doing with the rudder, and consequently it's causing a lot of confusion.