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Is real world time forced in career mode?

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    tamsini
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    In retrospect, the thought of real-sim time schedules seems to defeat the purpose of the inner workings of FTL. As much as I would love to see a schedule generated for my airline solely because I'm reluctant on have an external program manipulate anything in the sim, it doesn't appear that it's possible to have this work in real time.

    I'm certainly not a developer and I gotta say that I overall enjoy the app tremendously so I'll withdraw my suggestion and ask that other functions in the app get refined, such as some routes are not generated properly (i.e - an Air Canada flight having an arrival at a small airport even though medium airports are supposed to be excluded.)

    There are other issues that come about as I am getting to know this app so I suppose getting all the kinks out would certainly make me a happy camper.

    Enough rambling...

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      It's cool, I like hearing the feedback and everything is thought about and factored in. For example, there could be more freedom in scheduled mode. Maybe there is some real time flex there. I definitely need to let things settle and see what the wider customer base says and then we can start looking at what new features/improvements can be added.

      Right now, I'm just focusing on ironing out some of the initial bugs, getting the app stable and then we can go from there.

      Keep the suggestions (and bugs) coming! 🙂

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        To be honest the timings of the flight plan being game generated rather than real life time doesn’t bother me. If I had to fly in real life the time generated by the flight plan then it would be a pain. However, being able to fly at any time I want in real life and have FTL auto-change the game times for the flight plan is ideal.

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          borisvp
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          So, if I understand this correctly, in game time will only pass when I'm, well, in the game. There will be no penalty when I'm not playing (?)

          When a 4 sector schedule starts at, say, Aug-01, and I do one flight per week, it will be Aug-02 after 4 weeks. If I pause for 3 months, all my achievements will be frozen and still available when I continue.

          Correct?

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            So, if I understand this correctly, in game time will only pass when I'm, well, in the game. There will be no penalty when I'm not playing (?)

            When a 4 sector schedule starts at, say, Aug-01, and I do one flight per week, it will be Aug-02 after 4 weeks. If I pause for 3 months, all my achievements will be frozen and still available when I continue.

            Correct?

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            BBoaBrim
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            @borisvp From my experience of playing this everyday for the past week;

            1. Time only passes when you're in game.

            2. I usually do one flight per day and the days pass according to the schedule. I had two flights in the schedule for 1 July, the outbound and return journey. I flew the outbound on 1 July, and the return the following day, 2 Jul. FTL classed both flights as happening on 1 July. So, the timings and dates in game are not based on real life.

            3. As far as I am aware there are no penalties for absence. Time appears to freeze when you're not playing, which, for me, is good.

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              Hi Boris - yep - no penalties. You can fly as much as you want, when you want.

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                brenchen
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                @NeoGeo78 so currently, does it matter when you conduct the flight in real world? Will FTL just adjust your in-sim time to the one needed for the flight? For example if I can only jump on the sim and do a flight at 9pm local, but FTL schedules the flight to be at 6am, will the sim time be adjusted to 5:20am (assuming you have 40 min until pushback)?

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                  Yes, so Fly the Line will change your sim time to match your departure time, minus your pushback time. So you can fly at whatever time you like in the real world but you must avoid changing your sim time as this will break the tracking. So if its 9pm local time where you live and your flight is at 6:00am in Fly the Line, it will change your sim time to 5:20am, as you describe above.

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                    After made six flights I enjoy the schedule function (the career mode is not for me, seems it is intended only for single persons; no family, no childrens, no couple relations, etc.) I'm only disappointed with the date/time: if the schedule is set to flight order instead the date (by example: Day 1 KXXX to KYYY - Day 2 KZZZ to KWWW and so on, and freedom to assign the date and time for each day, may be via Simbrief) Thus, anybody can fly at a desired date and time. I don't know the internal flux of the program, but I think it that can be done relatively easy.
                    Other thing that I consider an error is the touchdown site: the proper target is 1000 ft. from the threshold (independently of the runway lenght) If the landing zone is set to 2000 ft. Then, the 50% = 1000 ft. will fit the real world.
                    The potential of this program is very interesting. Hope with the apropiate time will improve.
                    Kind rgards.

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                      After made six flights I enjoy the schedule function (the career mode is not for me, seems it is intended only for single persons; no family, no childrens, no couple relations, etc.) I'm only disappointed with the date/time: if the schedule is set to flight order instead the date (by example: Day 1 KXXX to KYYY - Day 2 KZZZ to KWWW and so on, and freedom to assign the date and time for each day, may be via Simbrief) Thus, anybody can fly at a desired date and time. I don't know the internal flux of the program, but I think it that can be done relatively easy.
                      Other thing that I consider an error is the touchdown site: the proper target is 1000 ft. from the threshold (independently of the runway lenght) If the landing zone is set to 2000 ft. Then, the 50% = 1000 ft. will fit the real world.
                      The potential of this program is very interesting. Hope with the apropiate time will improve.
                      Kind rgards.

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                      BBoaBrim
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                      @Rolo-Bach said in Is real world time forced in career mode?:

                      the career mode is not for me, seems it is intended only for single persons; no family, no childrens, no couple relations, etc

                      I really cannot see how being a parent/relations/having a job etc (something many of us have) has anything to do with it. The schedules given by FTL do not mean that is what you have to fly in real life. FTL automatically changes the in-game time for you.

                      If your schedule says on 1 July you have an outbound journey and a return journey to do, it does not mean that you have to fly both flights on the same day in real life. You fly it when you want. If your flight starts at 5:30 in the morning, it does not mean you have to get up in real life for 5:30. If your schedule has two flights in one game day, you can fly them whenever you want in real life. You can fly the outbound journey on one day and the return three days later in real life. The game will see it as one day.

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                        @Rolo-Bach said in Is real world time forced in career mode?:

                        the career mode is not for me, seems it is intended only for single persons; no family, no childrens, no couple relations, etc

                        I really cannot see how being a parent/relations/having a job etc (something many of us have) has anything to do with it. The schedules given by FTL do not mean that is what you have to fly in real life. FTL automatically changes the in-game time for you.

                        If your schedule says on 1 July you have an outbound journey and a return journey to do, it does not mean that you have to fly both flights on the same day in real life. You fly it when you want. If your flight starts at 5:30 in the morning, it does not mean you have to get up in real life for 5:30. If your schedule has two flights in one game day, you can fly them whenever you want in real life. You can fly the outbound journey on one day and the return three days later in real life. The game will see it as one day.

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                        @BBoaBrim said in Is real world time forced in career mode?:

                        @Rolo-Bach said in Is real world time forced in career mode?:

                        the career mode is not for me, seems it is intended only for single persons; no family, no childrens, no couple relations, etc

                        I really cannot see how being a parent/relations/having a job etc (something many of us have) has anything to do with it. The schedules given by FTL do not mean that is what you have to fly in real life. FTL automatically changes the in-game time for you.

                        If your schedule says on 1 July you have an outbound journey and a return journey to do, it does not mean that you have to fly both flights on the same day in real life. You fly it when you want. If your flight starts at 5:30 in the morning, it does not mean you have to get up in real life for 5:30. If your schedule has two flights in one game day, you can fly them whenever you want in real life. You can fly the outbound journey on one day and the return three days later in real life. The game will see it as one day.

                        Seems I need to clarify for you: Have family means that instead take a coffee with a friend go to cinema with my wife and children, or play music with my family (as I do), and similar things. Not a family job.
                        Set the flight section number and leave time and date free. Made strict assignments may disagree some people (as me). Instead, freedom can satisfy everybody. Hope I been clear.

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                          BBoaBrim
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                          What will time and date being free do? As I said, despite the fact that the flights have dates and times you don’t have to adhere to them in real life. FTL manages that for you. You can completely ignore the times and dates.

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                            What will time and date being free do? As I said, despite the fact that the flights have dates and times you don’t have to adhere to them in real life. FTL manages that for you. You can completely ignore the times and dates.

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                            @BBoaBrim I'm not understanding the issue either, since I fly 1 leg every other day or so (depending on my schedule), even though 1 "in game day" has 4 legs.

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