Boeing 707 Possible?
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It seems like no one is doing vintage jet liners for MSFS. It would be wonderful to see JustFlight take up the reigns on the Boeing 707, as the plane that was the banner carrier for the jet age of commercial aviation.
@madwolf05 said in Boeing 707 Possible?:
It seems like no one is doing vintage jet liners for MSFS.
Just Flight has had a go:
https://www.justflight.com/product/f28-professional
https://www.justflight.com/product/146-professional-microsoft-flight-simulator
No plans for a 707, however.
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@madwolf05 said in Boeing 707 Possible?:
It seems like no one is doing vintage jet liners for MSFS.
Just Flight has had a go:
https://www.justflight.com/product/f28-professional
https://www.justflight.com/product/146-professional-microsoft-flight-simulator
No plans for a 707, however.
@derek Thanks for the response Derek. I do appreciate what JF has done with the F28, and 146. I guess it would just be nice to see planes from the dawn of the jet age in commercial aviation. The 707, the VC10.
I realize they're far less popular than a 737, or Airbus, but it is definitely an era that is sorely lacking in flight sim since MSFS came out. And that's disappointing considering just how many aircraft, from all eras we had in FSX.
If I had to guess it is due to just how expensive development has gotten, on top of the time required to make these aircraft vs almost 2 decades ago.
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@derek Thanks for the response Derek. I do appreciate what JF has done with the F28, and 146. I guess it would just be nice to see planes from the dawn of the jet age in commercial aviation. The 707, the VC10.
I realize they're far less popular than a 737, or Airbus, but it is definitely an era that is sorely lacking in flight sim since MSFS came out. And that's disappointing considering just how many aircraft, from all eras we had in FSX.
If I had to guess it is due to just how expensive development has gotten, on top of the time required to make these aircraft vs almost 2 decades ago.
@madwolf05 said in Boeing 707 Possible?:
And that's disappointing considering just how many aircraft, from all eras we had in FSX.
FSX/P3D was around for nearly 14 years whereas MSFS has been out for just over three. We published a VC10, Bac 1-11, Comet, Tristar, Constellation, DC-6 and more for the old platform but none of them were particularly successful in commercial terms compared to more modern types. Lots of demand for old airliners but unfortunately it never seemed to translate into lots of sales. Maybe MSFS will be different...
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I completely understand the business economics side of it. Most tend to favor planes that are currently flying is what I am assuming. However Asobo keeps commissioning companies to create some vintage airliners such as the Boeing 307 and DC-3. So perhaps one day they might knock on Just Flight's door and ask for a 707, DC-8 or other 60s-70s era airliners. I can only dream of having such airliners in MSFS.
That is why I am very grateful the A300B4 and even the 747 classic will arrive some day.
So I guess we must recruit our friends and everyone we see to become flight simmers in MSFS and introduce them to Just Flight planes. :smiling_face_with_sunglasses: Perhaps FS 2024 will lure even more new simmers into this hobby.
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I completely understand the business economics side of it. Most tend to favor planes that are currently flying is what I am assuming. However Asobo keeps commissioning companies to create some vintage airliners such as the Boeing 307 and DC-3. So perhaps one day they might knock on Just Flight's door and ask for a 707, DC-8 or other 60s-70s era airliners. I can only dream of having such airliners in MSFS.
That is why I am very grateful the A300B4 and even the 747 classic will arrive some day.
So I guess we must recruit our friends and everyone we see to become flight simmers in MSFS and introduce them to Just Flight planes. :smiling_face_with_sunglasses: Perhaps FS 2024 will lure even more new simmers into this hobby.
@neinnunb A true classic will also become more and more of a challenge to fly as more and more nav aids are replaced by GPS waypoints and RNAV procedures. But if a retrofit variant is also included, say with a GTN750, that issue goes away, and you're left with the fun of trying to get an old school airliner up and running.
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@neinnunb A true classic will also become more and more of a challenge to fly as more and more nav aids are replaced by GPS waypoints and RNAV procedures. But if a retrofit variant is also included, say with a GTN750, that issue goes away, and you're left with the fun of trying to get an old school airliner up and running.
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@neinnunb A true classic will also become more and more of a challenge to fly as more and more nav aids are replaced by GPS waypoints and RNAV procedures. But if a retrofit variant is also included, say with a GTN750, that issue goes away, and you're left with the fun of trying to get an old school airliner up and running.
@sk0941 I used to fly the CS707 and 727 in FSX a lot. Modded with the CIVA INS it was no issue to fly basic RNAV, for SID/STAR and approach you had to switch to radio navigation, which was always a nice challenge as well.
So yeah, a big +1 on the 707 or even 727 (sexiest airliner of all times behind Concorde) from me! -
Something like a DC10-10 and DC-10-30 has been missing from all sims for years. A perfect blend of vintage but with modern RNAV capabilities, given the retrofits. Widely used by UK, EU and US carriers. Passenger and freight… Short haul and long haul…
Such a shame it is overlooked.
I think it would make more money than the F28 and the F70/100 put together, but that’s purely my view :-)
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@neinnunb A true classic will also become more and more of a challenge to fly as more and more nav aids are replaced by GPS waypoints and RNAV procedures. But if a retrofit variant is also included, say with a GTN750, that issue goes away, and you're left with the fun of trying to get an old school airliner up and running.
@sk0941 +FMS/Garmin-y retrofits. But true classics will keep flying one way or another, and in MSFS, its quite easier if one wants to go old school. Already can fly US like it's 1958 with all the original VORs, NDBs, etc from that era. You can also go all celnav (celestial navigation) and fly your DC-6 or Connie that way, which is how they did it before gyroscope INS systems became a thing.
https://flightsim.to/file/71888/golden-age-of-air-travel-u-s-navaids-as-of-1958
https://flightsim.to/file/17738/celnav-for-msfs-celestial-navigation-sextant
The Wing42 B247 included old AN type radio beacons globally for navigation (where they existed at the time, which was limited coverage). The mods and community stuff will expand with time.
