747 Classic Progress
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@Voice-of-Reason Release more pics or vids please, I've been waiting for a long time.
@centurion88 If we did that people would complain that nothing has changed. Truth is very little has in terms of visuals so it's rather pointless showing the same content. The coding side of things is delayed currently but we hope to get back on track just as soon as we can. Apologies and thanks for your continued interest.
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Its been almost a month with no update. Was just wondering if development was continuing or if things were on hold because of COVID. I don't mean to be a pain in the rear but even a weekly comment saying "progress is slow but still moving foreward" would be awesome if able.
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Its been almost a month with no update. Was just wondering if development was continuing or if things were on hold because of COVID. I don't mean to be a pain in the rear but even a weekly comment saying "progress is slow but still moving foreward" would be awesome if able.
@CptKiddAPI Progress is still delayed. We're attempting to get things moving again, hope to have news soon for you. Sorry for the lack of comms, there's very little we can say and report on currently.
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Thank you for the response. I am happy with an update of nothing has changed to be honest.
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I’m curious about what the hold up is, is it coding issues or modeling fixes? I did notice a few problems with the model that have been raised, the left upper exit always being present, the missing wing kink at the number 1 and number 4 engine pylons, nose and upper side cargo doors still having the wrong opening angles, etc.
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I’m curious about what the hold up is, is it coding issues or modeling fixes? I did notice a few problems with the model that have been raised, the left upper exit always being present, the missing wing kink at the number 1 and number 4 engine pylons, nose and upper side cargo doors still having the wrong opening angles, etc.
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Hi everyone,
The delay is entirely down to me! Worry not, however - work is continuing as fast as possible!
I never dump projects, and support will not be an issue either. I'm posting here to allay any concerns in this regard.
This last year has been unprecedented, and while I'm not personally affected by the various lockdowns, etc., (such is the life of a software engineer!), I'm still human.
Development and overall progress is going well, and we hope to have something new to show you Soon(TM).
Best regards,
Robin.JustFlight 747 Classic Developer
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Hi everyone,
The delay is entirely down to me! Worry not, however - work is continuing as fast as possible!
I never dump projects, and support will not be an issue either. I'm posting here to allay any concerns in this regard.
This last year has been unprecedented, and while I'm not personally affected by the various lockdowns, etc., (such is the life of a software engineer!), I'm still human.
Development and overall progress is going well, and we hope to have something new to show you Soon(TM).
Best regards,
Robin. -
@B744ERF
Hi,
So, are the problems causing the delay solved? Does it mean that the development is close to its finish?
Thanks.@centurion88 since this is quite an ambitious project i would say it will still take a while but it's good to know that development is back on track for now
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We actively do not speculate on release dates or completion.
It's a large project, but it has been in development now for 2 years, so make of that what you will. :winking_face_with_tongue:
Work continues... :smiling_face_with_sunglasses:
but it's good to know that development is back on track for now
It was never off-track...just delayed slightly due to personal issues. :pensive_face:
Anyway...we will try to start showing you stuff at some point! We are closer to the end than the beginning!
If you're curious, we're at around 75,000 lines of code and counting, and the project started from zero.
If there is anything about the systems development you'd like to know (how a system is developed generally, or how a specific system is implemented in the sim) please feel free to ask and I'll answer as far as I can. :grinning_face_with_smiling_eyes:
Best regards,
Robin.JustFlight 747 Classic Developer
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We actively do not speculate on release dates or completion.
It's a large project, but it has been in development now for 2 years, so make of that what you will. :winking_face_with_tongue:
Work continues... :smiling_face_with_sunglasses:
but it's good to know that development is back on track for now
It was never off-track...just delayed slightly due to personal issues. :pensive_face:
Anyway...we will try to start showing you stuff at some point! We are closer to the end than the beginning!
If you're curious, we're at around 75,000 lines of code and counting, and the project started from zero.
If there is anything about the systems development you'd like to know (how a system is developed generally, or how a specific system is implemented in the sim) please feel free to ask and I'll answer as far as I can. :grinning_face_with_smiling_eyes:
Best regards,
Robin. -
We actively do not speculate on release dates or completion.
It's a large project, but it has been in development now for 2 years, so make of that what you will. :winking_face_with_tongue:
Work continues... :smiling_face_with_sunglasses:
but it's good to know that development is back on track for now
It was never off-track...just delayed slightly due to personal issues. :pensive_face:
Anyway...we will try to start showing you stuff at some point! We are closer to the end than the beginning!
If you're curious, we're at around 75,000 lines of code and counting, and the project started from zero.
If there is anything about the systems development you'd like to know (how a system is developed generally, or how a specific system is implemented in the sim) please feel free to ask and I'll answer as far as I can. :grinning_face_with_smiling_eyes:
Best regards,
Robin.@B744ERF
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@B744ERF
Could you tell me what the most complex system is? And in what degree it has been developed up to now?@centurion88 said in 747 Classic Progress:
@B744ERF
Could you tell me what the most complex system is? And in what degree it has been developed up to now?That would be the INS/AP combination.
It's modelled as far as normal operation, and in totality. If the real unit does it, this does it.
The AP and AT logic has been painstakingly replicated. There are some quirks that are not detailed in the manual, and we cover these as well (such as engagement logic and reversions).
Not far away from that would be the pressurization system. It models the air pressure within the cabin and considers various factors such as ambient pressure, outflow valve position, and even whether the toilet extraction fan is on (when it is ON the pressurization requirements measurably increase to compensate). Because of the way pressure is simulated, it also permits the simulation of over-pressure events on the ground before takeoff, and pack-trip logic isn't simply canned - it actually reacts to the situation presented. None of the system behaviors are "pre-programmed".
The vast majority of the systems are equally detailed. I'm most pleased with the air data system - you will need to be aware of the OAT and apply cold-temperature corrections, especially on approach, as the altimetry system responds correctly to changes in air density which is something I have not seen in any other simulator. :smiling_face_with_sunglasses:
Best regards,
Robin.JustFlight 747 Classic Developer
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@centurion88 said in 747 Classic Progress:
@B744ERF
Could you tell me what the most complex system is? And in what degree it has been developed up to now?That would be the INS/AP combination.
It's modelled as far as normal operation, and in totality. If the real unit does it, this does it.
The AP and AT logic has been painstakingly replicated. There are some quirks that are not detailed in the manual, and we cover these as well (such as engagement logic and reversions).
Not far away from that would be the pressurization system. It models the air pressure within the cabin and considers various factors such as ambient pressure, outflow valve position, and even whether the toilet extraction fan is on (when it is ON the pressurization requirements measurably increase to compensate). Because of the way pressure is simulated, it also permits the simulation of over-pressure events on the ground before takeoff, and pack-trip logic isn't simply canned - it actually reacts to the situation presented. None of the system behaviors are "pre-programmed".
The vast majority of the systems are equally detailed. I'm most pleased with the air data system - you will need to be aware of the OAT and apply cold-temperature corrections, especially on approach, as the altimetry system responds correctly to changes in air density which is something I have not seen in any other simulator. :smiling_face_with_sunglasses:
Best regards,
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@B744ERF neat, I can only hope the exterior model is tweaked to match the glory of all the systems and the interior model
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@centurion88 said in 747 Classic Progress:
@B744ERF
Could you tell me what the most complex system is? And in what degree it has been developed up to now?That would be the INS/AP combination.
It's modelled as far as normal operation, and in totality. If the real unit does it, this does it.
The AP and AT logic has been painstakingly replicated. There are some quirks that are not detailed in the manual, and we cover these as well (such as engagement logic and reversions).
Not far away from that would be the pressurization system. It models the air pressure within the cabin and considers various factors such as ambient pressure, outflow valve position, and even whether the toilet extraction fan is on (when it is ON the pressurization requirements measurably increase to compensate). Because of the way pressure is simulated, it also permits the simulation of over-pressure events on the ground before takeoff, and pack-trip logic isn't simply canned - it actually reacts to the situation presented. None of the system behaviors are "pre-programmed".
The vast majority of the systems are equally detailed. I'm most pleased with the air data system - you will need to be aware of the OAT and apply cold-temperature corrections, especially on approach, as the altimetry system responds correctly to changes in air density which is something I have not seen in any other simulator. :smiling_face_with_sunglasses:
Best regards,
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@Noob21 I think Robin is only responsible for the programming of the systems so I’m not sure if he can give you an answer for that but I’m sure some changes have been made
@JoeNuts oh I’m sure he is only responsible for the systems, I can’t expect anyone to do all that work, especially when the systems are so complex, I was just saying how I hope the modeling team fix some of the errors with the exterior model as it looks a bit lackluster, especially compared to some of JF’s other aircraft like their upcoming A300 which looks fantastic.
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@JoeNuts oh I’m sure he is only responsible for the systems, I can’t expect anyone to do all that work, especially when the systems are so complex, I was just saying how I hope the modeling team fix some of the errors with the exterior model as it looks a bit lackluster, especially compared to some of JF’s other aircraft like their upcoming A300 which looks fantastic.
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Ijust hope that when it is finished it is true to the original 747 and not a -100 with all the mods that it saw through the years. Please dont airbus a classic beauty.
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Ijust hope that when it is finished it is true to the original 747 and not a -100 with all the mods that it saw through the years. Please dont airbus a classic beauty.
@CptKiddAPI There are already going to be options available with regards to the avionics equipment, so the original -100 FD and AP will be included I believe
