747 Classic Progress
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@Noob21 said in 747 Classic Progress:
I agree, the updates do look nice. However the lower cargo doors still seem to have the wrong opening angle.
That'll be looked at and fixed if it's an issue, thanks.
@Voice-of-Reason I did already leave a source on the opening angle of the cargo doors in another thread, but I’ll leave it here as well, it’s a pretty straightforward example. https://www.atclogistic.net/air-freighter-specification/
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@Voice-of-Reason I did already leave a source on the opening angle of the cargo doors in another thread, but I’ll leave it here as well, it’s a pretty straightforward example. https://www.atclogistic.net/air-freighter-specification/
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@Rich Thank you! It looks much more proper now, I’m glad you guys were willing to take that information to put it to good use! All too often small problems like this are overlooked and it leads to problems with systems like GSX and the like, as the proper ULDs can’t fit under the door. I hope the problems with the SCD and NCD on the freighter model are also being corrected. Can’t wait for this product in a few months. Also, now that more information about FS2020 has come to light, does JF possibly have plans on porting the P3Dv4 version of this to FS2020 when JF gets their hands on the SDK, likely within the next year or so?
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No problem. Thanks very much for supplying the reference material. The opening angle has also been corrected on the 200 and 200F. Hopefully we'll have some screenshots of those variants out soon.
We can't make any promises at this very early stage, but the 747 would be right at the top of the list of aircraft we would want to get onto FS2020. Hopefully we'll be able to say more as more information about the sim becomes available. -
All this gimmicky stuff might be ok for the kids, but what about us real simmers?
Any chance of seeing some cockpit shots inflight? Seeing the EPR / N1 values etc?
How Realistic the FDE is more important then a cargo door.@Ruddman said in 747 Classic Progress:
All this gimmicky stuff might be ok for the kids, but what about us real simmers?
Any chance of seeing some cockpit shots inflight? Seeing the EPR / N1 values etc?
How Realistic the FDE is more important then a cargo door.The cargo door pic was posted in direct response to earlier feedback and is by no means a reflection of our current focus. We have been working on finalising the exterior model animations and so fixed the cargo door, and wanted to keep Noob21 updated on that fix. I'm also not sure cargo doors are gimmicky, but I appreciate that they don't constitute a realistic simulation.
In-flight pics including engine values will be coming soon, and we are of course paying close to attention to the realism of the FDE, as per the in-dev page specs.
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No problem. Thanks very much for supplying the reference material. The opening angle has also been corrected on the 200 and 200F. Hopefully we'll have some screenshots of those variants out soon.
We can't make any promises at this very early stage, but the 747 would be right at the top of the list of aircraft we would want to get onto FS2020. Hopefully we'll be able to say more as more information about the sim becomes available.@Rich I’m aware you obviously cannot make any promises, but from what I can tell, FS2020 is looking promising for a level of backwards compatibility, as it is still based off FSX, and presumably will be a somewhat easy adaptation from P3DV4, albeit it will likely need a brand new flight model with the new aerodynamic system they have implemented. Also, I noticed that the compatibility list on the page for the aircraft now only has P3DV4 listed. Was 32bit compatibility scrapped in favor of P3DV4 and eventually FS2020 when JF gets the needed information and tools to start developing aircraft for it?
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@Noob21 said in 747 Classic Progress:
Also, I noticed that the compatibility list on the page for the aircraft now only has P3DV4 listed. Was 32bit compatibility scrapped in favor of P3DV4 and eventually FS2020 when JF gets the needed information and tools to start developing aircraft for it?
We've only been working on the 64bit version during development. At the moment there are a lot of features on the aircraft that wouldn't work in FSX and would need to have suitable replacements created - the internal and external lighting systems as one example. We'll need to make a judgement call whether the work to create an FSX version can be justified, especially if its running alongside work to create FS2020 and X-Plane versions, once the P3Dv4 version has been released. If we possibly can then the team will for sure though.
We'd like to confirm compatibility with FS2020, or at least commit to releasing an update within a reasonable time frame, just as soon as we have enough information to do so.@PeteFly82 said in 747 Classic Progress:
great. Thanks for the progress infos.
Any new pics of the freighter version?Watch this space! We're due to have a fully PBR'd, animated and tagged version ready as soon as tomorrow. Once we have that we'll be publishing a new set of pics.
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@Noob21 said in 747 Classic Progress:
Also, I noticed that the compatibility list on the page for the aircraft now only has P3DV4 listed. Was 32bit compatibility scrapped in favor of P3DV4 and eventually FS2020 when JF gets the needed information and tools to start developing aircraft for it?
We've only been working on the 64bit version during development. At the moment there are a lot of features on the aircraft that wouldn't work in FSX and would need to have suitable replacements created - the internal and external lighting systems as one example. We'll need to make a judgement call whether the work to create an FSX version can be justified, especially if its running alongside work to create FS2020 and X-Plane versions, once the P3Dv4 version has been released. If we possibly can then the team will for sure though.
We'd like to confirm compatibility with FS2020, or at least commit to releasing an update within a reasonable time frame, just as soon as we have enough information to do so.@PeteFly82 said in 747 Classic Progress:
great. Thanks for the progress infos.
Any new pics of the freighter version?Watch this space! We're due to have a fully PBR'd, animated and tagged version ready as soon as tomorrow. Once we have that we'll be publishing a new set of pics.
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Just looked at the new pictures, it's looking great Just Flight!
Hopefully expecting a release later this month.
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Hopefully more details on performance in the sim, actually aircraft performance of the different engine variants, and and more details on the specifics of what each engine variant is.
Sadly, I feel we are already seeing CLS 747-200 V2. Which would be disastrous.
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I don't think this will be a CLS, this is going to be a study level 747 classic judging by the amount of systems they will be simulating.
If anything it will be like ready for pushback but modernized.
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I don't think this will be a CLS, this is going to be a study level 747 classic judging by the amount of systems they will be simulating.
If anything it will be like ready for pushback but modernized.
@Captain-Bakon RFP 747-200 - JustFlight Edition!
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Well, I think it would be very unfair to attribute that it would be similar to that of the CLS 747 given that I think the overall standard of flight sim releases has vastly improved in all regards since then, and I think the list of features on the in development page is demonstrative that it is a different beast.
In terms of system fidelity, the L1011 Tristar Professional was rather good given that it was(from what I understand) one of the first cracks JF gave to making a high fidelity aircraft in house.
CLS' work at the time was of a very different standard, and even amongst their lineage of products they vastly improved in quality - especially from their older Airbus series which would be freeware standard today to their MD80, which was alright.
Unlike the CLS, this does seem to have a nearly fully modelled flight engineers panel in VC.
- Aspects such as how the hydraulic system according to engine function is a good sign as well as fuel system.
- I also quite like that EPR will mean something when in cruise to get optimum fuel consumption. If this works as advertised it will be demonstrative that engine performance has been simulated rather accurately. But as you say, we'll have to see how this differs between aircraft performance. I wouldn't be opposed to them initially releasing it under JT9D performance and then filling out the CF6 and RB211 in time.
That said, we'll just have to see.
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Well, I think it would be very unfair to attribute that it would be similar to that of the CLS 747 given that I think the overall standard of flight sim releases has vastly improved in all regards since then, and I think the list of features on the in development page is demonstrative that it is a different beast.
In terms of system fidelity, the L1011 Tristar Professional was rather good given that it was(from what I understand) one of the first cracks JF gave to making a high fidelity aircraft in house.
CLS' work at the time was of a very different standard, and even amongst their lineage of products they vastly improved in quality - especially from their older Airbus series which would be freeware standard today to their MD80, which was alright.
Unlike the CLS, this does seem to have a nearly fully modelled flight engineers panel in VC.
- Aspects such as how the hydraulic system according to engine function is a good sign as well as fuel system.
- I also quite like that EPR will mean something when in cruise to get optimum fuel consumption. If this works as advertised it will be demonstrative that engine performance has been simulated rather accurately. But as you say, we'll have to see how this differs between aircraft performance. I wouldn't be opposed to them initially releasing it under JT9D performance and then filling out the CF6 and RB211 in time.
That said, we'll just have to see.
