Airfield buildings

  • Should I be seeing American style air traffic control towers? I am running P3Dv4.5.

  • JF Staff

    Probably something the autogen has placed from the default library. Can you get a screenshot and a location?

  • @Derek The problem seems to have resolved itself. It was at EGYE Barkston Heath in Vol.2. I use Barkston a lot because the real one is almost in sight of my house. For three or four days it was loading with a generic American tower, but, when I just loaded it to take a screenshot, I got a generic RAF style tower.
    Overall I am impressed. I was using Orbx True Earth but loading times were beyond belief and since the P3Dv4.5 update, it eats memory voraciously. This product loads quickly and, while maybe not quite so detailed it doesn't crash the computer after 20 minutes, something that I consider to be a bonus.

    PS. Maybe I'm being a little picky here, but the flagpole at EGYE is missing the White Ensign. :o)

  • JF Staff

    @petesmiffy The white ensign is at the dry cleaners. I will have a word with Martin 😉

    Glad all sorted and that VFR NexGen is performing as intended - loads easily and doesn't compromise frame rates. As I say, the tower issue is probably something to do with 'authority' - the various sceneries in use have to be placed in a pecking order. The tool that comes VFR NexGen should take care of that but some scenery developers are not so conscientious when it comes to leaving things lying around.

  • JF Staff

    Double checked and airport buildings are placed as part of the airport file. VFR doesn’t change that. If you turned off the VFR scenery the airport would still appear the same - unless you have a different version of the airport from default. Any changes we have made to individual airports has been restricted to relocating runways and objects. Not adding anything or changing any building types.
    Actually just checked and EGYE was not one of the airports that required editing so it should be the default airport or a third party one of that was used?

  • Thanks for that.
    As an ex-Royal Navy signalman, I wish had been able to use the dry cleaners for the flags. :o)

    I will now invest in Vol. 1

  • So I buy and install Vol. 1.
    London is the frame rate killer, so I load up my trusty Stinson at London City.
    I take to the skies. The frame rate is about 28 fps, best I have ever had over London.
    But I have two O2 Arenas, two Gerkins, one Tower Bridge but two Waterloo Bridges, one London Eye, but two Houses of Parliament (now that is a terrifying sight!), one Buckingham Palace and two Nelson's Columns.

    Reboot the computer and try again. This time I'm down to one of everything, except I still have two Gerkins, but if I can get 30 fps over London, I can live with that.

    Next to try, a Hunter through Tower Bridge.

    This is a very good product for the price. Well done.

  • JF Staff

    @petesmiffy If you are seeing two copies of the Gherkin it is likely to be to do with other scenery packages or something like that. VFR certainly doesn't ship with two. Worth contacting support with a screenshot and they can probably suss out what is displaying twice. Again, likely to be 'authority' and one scenery package is trumping another. Did you say you had an OrbX package installed?

  • I have both Orbx UK and Orbx UK True Earth, but I have disabled them. I do however have Orbx Land Class Europe active but set below VFR Vol. 1 and 2 in my Scenery Library. 2019-5-15_22-33-18-302.jpg

  • @petesmiffy One Gerkin seems to be overlapping another building2019-5-15_22-41-44-373.jpg Both appear in the F12 view.

  • Found an Orbx file that should have been disabled was still active.
    Problem solved.
    Thanks for your time.

  • JF Staff

    Glad it is sorted.

    It would make sense that you were previously seeing two of some landmark objects but not others if there was a replacement set live. Any that lined up exactly would appear as one while those where they have been placed slightly differently from ours would show two of them.

    London has the most default landmarks in the country (more than the rest of the country combined) so this is the most likely place these sort of problems will occur. As well as orbx TE, orbx England and possibly orbx Europe there are may London-enhancing addons/cityscapes around that modify/move/replace the landmark objects here.

    On another note it looks like you have the autogen turned down low (judging from the low amount of buildings and trees showing in the screenshots).You might want to try increasing hthe autogen settings a bit as I think you could go up a notch or two without losing too many fps.

  • I turned up the autogen and the overall look is much better and no noticeable effect of frame rate.
    However, HMS Belfast has disappeared! Gain a couple of bridges too, a double Blackfriars and a new bridge between Southwark and Millennium. But I'm not complaining, I could keep tweaking, but that way madness lies.

  • JF Staff

    I don't think you need to tweak - there is clearly something conflicting and adding London landmarks.

  • Thanks for all the help.
    I think that, other than endless tweaking, the solution would be a clean install of P3D, so I'll live with it and Londoners can benefit from their two new bridges.

  • @petesmiffy in case it's any help, there should be two bridges at Blackfriars. The Western bridge is the road bridge, the Eastern bridge is the rail bridge (which looks a little different now as they moved the station to on top of the bridge a few years ago). In between the two are unused pillars from an older bridge which has been demolished - nice to see those feature on the screenshot.

    Perhaps the other extra bridge is the rail bridge which goes across the river to Cannon Street Station (don't know the official name of that one sorry).