PA28R pulls left
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Just made a small video. First one right after take off, full throttle. Second with plane trimmed out, throttle at around 50% - mixture around 70%. Yoke perfectly straight, no winds.
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@lapinobel comparing higher end 3rd party planes to default or planes like carenado is simply meaningless since they are not yet properly tuned for effects Especially that are related to yaw moment. Go fly AT Simulations piaggio, another well modeled plane, it also needs rudder input under higher power settings in level flight. You are used to that broken aspect of fs2020 where all the planes basically never need rudder coordination.
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Ok thx. Just learning...
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@lapinobel as an actual PA28 pilot I will say the input to maintain straight and level rarely takes any rudder input, but sometimes does depending on winds. During takeoff and landing, it absolutely needs rudder input. As another individual mentioned, there are a bunch of factors causing this a to occur.
I will say that on the ground, the nose wheel friction is nowhere near where it needs to be which causes you to slip and slide over the runway if you are not careful. In real life, physics of friction act on the nose wheel and make it very difficult to turn at higher speeds, thankfully the rudder provides the necessary air control.
Just my two cents.
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So then the plane rolling to the left this hard is not normal?
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I think the tendency to roll left from engine torque is maybe a tad to much. But you should be able to eliminate that with rudder trim.
Seems to work in terms of clicking just the wrong way and too much per single click.
When turning the wheel clockwise which should be a nose to the right effect the aircraft yaws left. -
I am used to the torque effect, especially on powerful planes, but what I am getting with the PA28 is totally different. It starts on takeoff with normal torque effect that I correct with the pedals like normal. About halfway down the runway, the plane makes a wild left turn 90 degrees from the runway. I try to compensate, but at this point I am at full throttle and recovering from that kind of turn is almost impossible. I have had a few uneventful takeoffs, but today they were all horrible. I later flew the Diamond D62 without any such behavior.
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@Quijote
This may also come from the unfortunate x-wind behaviour of real weather in MSFS. Any x-wind is reduced at low speeds but at a point it kicks in much to much and generates that effect - a defect in the surface wind model -
@Quijote said in PA28R pulls left:
the plane makes a wild left turn 90 degrees from the runway
Turn as in rudder or turn as in aileron?
You might have the same issue as I did - the autopilot got turned on by something. For me this was usually caused by turning the coupler knob, but basically anything you do prior takeoff with the AP controls might cause this.Check here, I have a video of how it goes for me if I force this bug:
https://community.justflight.com/topic/1724/autopilot-engages-by-turning-coupler-dial -
Hi,
Using the thrustmaster HOTAS Warthog here and I'm experiencing the same issue - no winds, no thrust at 100%. prop power at about 80% - the plane keeps banking left...could use some advice here.
Thank you.
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@copper said in PA28R pulls left:
@Quijote said in PA28R pulls left:
the plane makes a wild left turn 90 degrees from the runway
Turn as in rudder or turn as in aileron?
You might have the same issue as I did - the autopilot got turned on by something. For me this was usually caused by turning the coupler knob, but basically anything you do prior takeoff with the AP controls might cause this.Check here, I have a video of how it goes for me if I force this bug:
https://community.justflight.com/topic/1724/autopilot-engages-by-turning-coupler-dialfor me at least - this is not the plane's behavior.
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These ground handling complaints sound like the issues stemming from the core simulation deficiencies in msfs currently, asobo is aware ground handling during takeoff and landing roll is not right, the fix is a major rework of friction both static and dynamic, it's in-work but no eta yet as it's a big job. I do however feel JF has done a great job working with it.
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Try adding a P2 with the same weight (170lbs) before you start the flight.
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@jme1111 This is what solved the problem for me as well.
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I'm getting a lot of left-roll in the air like @lapinobel too. Applying some right rudder trim lessens the effect but I haven't been able to get it spot on. In order to fly level I have to keep the yoke angled to slightly to the right.
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Tendency to roll left is bad. It's not a takeoff thing. Happens in level flight and at speed.
I tried adding a second pilot, same weight. Still does it.
It's not torque effect. It does not change even at flight idle vs. full power.
Please see if the update can trim this out. If it were a real plane, I'd take it in to the shop to get the roll trim adjusted.
