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L-1011 Pro to X-Plane 11?

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    Bellerophon
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    Hello there,

    so, i was wondering if the TriStar 500 was ever considered for XP11? It would fill a gap since there seems to be no L-1011 for XP. Are there any plans?

    Thank you and keep up the good work.

    Best regards,
    Bellerophon

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      Cedric Hunter
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      Good question...

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        No guys is the answer to this unfortunately, no immediate plans for it anyway. Sorry.

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          No guys is the answer to this unfortunately, no immediate plans for it anyway. Sorry.

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          Scorpio47
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          @voice-of-reason
          Unfortunately all efforts go now into MSFS and the very trusty and well functioning XP11 is not a priority.....

          Perhaps the attention will change again when XP12 comes out...

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            @voice-of-reason
            Unfortunately all efforts go now into MSFS and the very trusty and well functioning XP11 is not a priority.....

            Perhaps the attention will change again when XP12 comes out...

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            @scorpio47 said in L-1011 Pro to X-Plane 11?:

            @voice-of-reason
            Unfortunately all efforts go now into MSFS and the very trusty and well functioning XP11 is not a priority.....

            Perhaps the attention will change again when XP12 comes out...

            Or, perhaps our L-1011 is too old to convert to XP11, let alone XP12? We released the 146 for XP11 in April and it is proving popular. Not every aircraft from our back catalogue is suitable for conversion and, commercially, a Tristar is not something that we would want to develop from scratch - there simply isn't the demand.

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              @scorpio47 said in L-1011 Pro to X-Plane 11?:

              @voice-of-reason
              Unfortunately all efforts go now into MSFS and the very trusty and well functioning XP11 is not a priority.....

              Perhaps the attention will change again when XP12 comes out...

              Or, perhaps our L-1011 is too old to convert to XP11, let alone XP12? We released the 146 for XP11 in April and it is proving popular. Not every aircraft from our back catalogue is suitable for conversion and, commercially, a Tristar is not something that we would want to develop from scratch - there simply isn't the demand.

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              @derek
              As a marketing person you will know that demand can be created.... If there is an offer, demand will follow, it is rarely the other way round, because many things would simply not exist if one waits for "demand" to trigger their production.....

              But it is true that these classic airplanes tend to sink into the darkness of history and for sure, the Tristar is no easy plane to model in any simulation...

              Merry Christmas and all the best for the new year 2022!

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                @derek
                As a marketing person you will know that demand can be created.... If there is an offer, demand will follow, it is rarely the other way round, because many things would simply not exist if one waits for "demand" to trigger their production.....

                But it is true that these classic airplanes tend to sink into the darkness of history and for sure, the Tristar is no easy plane to model in any simulation...

                Merry Christmas and all the best for the new year 2022!

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                @scorpio47

                I'm not a marketing person but it is a fact that you can build the best Blackburn Botha for X-Plane 13 and it is only going to be bought by a few completists. Meanwhile, the market will swallow as many 737s as you can shove down its collective throat. Unlike the iPhone and iPad (usually cited as the must-have product no-one knew they wanted) we are talking about a mature market that generally reflects the real world. Modern airliners and modern GA aircraft are popular. Modern military less so. Old military and old airliners much less so, with a very small number of notable exceptions.
                With aircraft like the Tristar, Constellation, VC10, Vulcan, Canberra and BAE146 in our catalogue we have a pretty good idea of the work needed to make a decent old commercial aircraft and, unfortunately, it is probably a bridge too far to get something as dated (in FS terms) as the Tristar into XP at the level of detail and quality we'd be happy with.

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                  @scorpio47

                  I'm not a marketing person but it is a fact that you can build the best Blackburn Botha for X-Plane 13 and it is only going to be bought by a few completists. Meanwhile, the market will swallow as many 737s as you can shove down its collective throat. Unlike the iPhone and iPad (usually cited as the must-have product no-one knew they wanted) we are talking about a mature market that generally reflects the real world. Modern airliners and modern GA aircraft are popular. Modern military less so. Old military and old airliners much less so, with a very small number of notable exceptions.
                  With aircraft like the Tristar, Constellation, VC10, Vulcan, Canberra and BAE146 in our catalogue we have a pretty good idea of the work needed to make a decent old commercial aircraft and, unfortunately, it is probably a bridge too far to get something as dated (in FS terms) as the Tristar into XP at the level of detail and quality we'd be happy with.

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                  @derek
                  I agree fully, Derek, and I am saddened by this situation (probably because I am myself nearly as old as the Tristar, actually quite a bit older [born in 1947].....

                  Nevertheless a market can be created as you said yourself with the example of Apple or even the PC which nobody "needed" or even wanted when they came out. The offer itself created the demand for those.....

                  So, what can I say? You know much better than many what sells and what not, and as a profit oriented company you have to keep up the sales figures and the profit margin. That is good, as it enables you to even produce one or the other "exotic" product like a L-1011 for XP12 😲

                  But first, let´s celebrate the holdays ahead and stay safe and in good health until the end of our journey on this planet!

                  Cheers
                  Juergen

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