Tornado GR.1
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Hi @Derek the most recent post was from a different poster, not me the OP, which is why it says different things about time scales etc.
I sadly had no joy with the simconnect fix, from what I can work out TFR seems to hold a baro altitude rather than a rad altitude, which doesn't end well when the terrain changes. When TFR is holding a fixed altitude (which appears to be in relation to baro height) there is a constant trim oscillation back and forth.
From reading through posts on the old JF forum, problems with the TFR seem to have been there for a long time (possibly since release? ) e.g. forum.justflight.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=32026&PN=1&title=a-couple-of-issues-with-v4.
I've been offered a refund when heard back from support, but will stick with the product as much of it is great. However, it would be amazing to have a working TFR as featured in the advertising. Perhaps it is just a problem with my PC (should be building a new one in the next few weeks)? It would be great to know if anyone at JF can operate TFR successfully and post a video up so I can see what should be happening.
Best wishes
Steve
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No - looks like there is a bug but not sure when it was introduced. We are working on the F3 at the moment and will aim to get to the bottom of this as part of the F3 development. Not had very many reports of it, so may be system specific.
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No - looks like there is a bug but not sure when it was introduced. We are working on the F3 at the moment and will aim to get to the bottom of this as part of the F3 development. Not had very many reports of it, so may be system specific.
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The TFR is a bit of a bodge - always was on the old RAF Tornado. I seem to remember it can over-correct. We'll definitely look into this as part of the F3 development*. It may be unfixable, but we'll see.
*The F3 doesn't have TFR but we will still be under the bonnet on Tornado code in general.
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Hi @Derek the most recent post was from a different poster, not me the OP, which is why it says different things about time scales etc.
I sadly had no joy with the simconnect fix, from what I can work out TFR seems to hold a baro altitude rather than a rad altitude, which doesn't end well when the terrain changes. When TFR is holding a fixed altitude (which appears to be in relation to baro height) there is a constant trim oscillation back and forth.
From reading through posts on the old JF forum, problems with the TFR seem to have been there for a long time (possibly since release? ) e.g. forum.justflight.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=32026&PN=1&title=a-couple-of-issues-with-v4.
I've been offered a refund when heard back from support, but will stick with the product as much of it is great. However, it would be amazing to have a working TFR as featured in the advertising. Perhaps it is just a problem with my PC (should be building a new one in the next few weeks)? It would be great to know if anyone at JF can operate TFR successfully and post a video up so I can see what should be happening.
Best wishes
Steve
@SteveMk1 said in Tornado GR.1:
Hi @Derek the most recent post was from a different poster, not me the OP, which is why it says different things about time scales etc.
I sadly had no joy with the simconnect fix, from what I can work out TFR seems to hold a baro altitude rather than a rad altitude, which doesn't end well when the terrain changes. When TFR is holding a fixed altitude (which appears to be in relation to baro height) there is a constant trim oscillation back and forth.
From reading through posts on the old JF forum, problems with the TFR seem to have been there for a long time (possibly since release? ) e.g. forum.justflight.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=32026&PN=1&title=a-couple-of-issues-with-v4.
I've been offered a refund when heard back from support, but will stick with the product as much of it is great. However, it would be amazing to have a working TFR as featured in the advertising. Perhaps it is just a problem with my PC (should be building a new one in the next few weeks)? It would be great to know if anyone at JF can operate TFR successfully and post a video up so I can see what should be happening.
Best wishes
Steve
Sorry for the thread necro, but I've got the exact same problem.
Fresh Tonka install, latest installer available from Just Flight downloads. Running P3Dv4.5 still.
The TFR pitches up and down while steadily diving towards the ground. I've tried different combinations of modes, but the result is always that the aircraft plunges into the ground.As a sidenote...
I'm aware of a freeware TFR gauge that can be installed on different aircraft; I haven't fiddled around with it on the Tornado, but I know that it works on many other aircraft, like the CS C-130 (now one of the default P3D aircraft), as well as on the Virtavia B-1B. And there are other aircraft that it does not play nicely with. Not a perfect implementation of a TFR, but workable, even if one needs to sit and watch like a hawk and be ready to disengage the AP to avoid terrain at times.Anyways, like many people have said in the old forum, for the Tornado GR1 the TFR is not just a nice-to-have gimmick; it really is the bread and butter for this aircraft. So would very much like to see it fixed.
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@SteveMk1 said in Tornado GR.1:
Hi @Derek the most recent post was from a different poster, not me the OP, which is why it says different things about time scales etc.
I sadly had no joy with the simconnect fix, from what I can work out TFR seems to hold a baro altitude rather than a rad altitude, which doesn't end well when the terrain changes. When TFR is holding a fixed altitude (which appears to be in relation to baro height) there is a constant trim oscillation back and forth.
From reading through posts on the old JF forum, problems with the TFR seem to have been there for a long time (possibly since release? ) e.g. forum.justflight.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=32026&PN=1&title=a-couple-of-issues-with-v4.
I've been offered a refund when heard back from support, but will stick with the product as much of it is great. However, it would be amazing to have a working TFR as featured in the advertising. Perhaps it is just a problem with my PC (should be building a new one in the next few weeks)? It would be great to know if anyone at JF can operate TFR successfully and post a video up so I can see what should be happening.
Best wishes
Steve
Sorry for the thread necro, but I've got the exact same problem.
Fresh Tonka install, latest installer available from Just Flight downloads. Running P3Dv4.5 still.
The TFR pitches up and down while steadily diving towards the ground. I've tried different combinations of modes, but the result is always that the aircraft plunges into the ground.As a sidenote...
I'm aware of a freeware TFR gauge that can be installed on different aircraft; I haven't fiddled around with it on the Tornado, but I know that it works on many other aircraft, like the CS C-130 (now one of the default P3D aircraft), as well as on the Virtavia B-1B. And there are other aircraft that it does not play nicely with. Not a perfect implementation of a TFR, but workable, even if one needs to sit and watch like a hawk and be ready to disengage the AP to avoid terrain at times.Anyways, like many people have said in the old forum, for the Tornado GR1 the TFR is not just a nice-to-have gimmick; it really is the bread and butter for this aircraft. So would very much like to see it fixed.
@endl3ss I think they've never fixed it. I've owned for about 18 months and it's not worked in that time (in fsx, p3dv4 or p3dv5). It feels a bit uncomfortable that for all that time functioning terrain-functioning-radar has been listed on the product description.
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@endl3ss I think they've never fixed it. I've owned for about 18 months and it's not worked in that time (in fsx, p3dv4 or p3dv5). It feels a bit uncomfortable that for all that time functioning terrain-functioning-radar has been listed on the product description.
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@SteveMk1 Agreed. Looking into it.
@Voice-of-Reason any update on this one?
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The TFR is a bit of a bodge - always was on the old RAF Tornado. I seem to remember it can over-correct. We'll definitely look into this as part of the F3 development*. It may be unfixable, but we'll see.
*The F3 doesn't have TFR but we will still be under the bonnet on Tornado code in general.
@Derek said in Tornado GR.1:
The TFR is a bit of a bodge - always was on the old RAF Tornado. I seem to remember it can over-correct. We'll definitely look into this as part of the F3 development*. It may be unfixable, but we'll see.
*The F3 doesn't have TFR but we will still be under the bonnet on Tornado code in general.
Given that the F3 now is out, has there been any work done on the TFR of GR1 as well?
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The TFR tends to hold the baro altitude not the ground elevation. It works over the sea, but is not yet able to follow contours. When over the sea there is a tendency to bounce around the preset altitude quite violently even with soft ride selected. So far there is no update to the GR1 TFR, and as it's been five years since the original release date, it's probably not ever likely to happen, which is a shame.
