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    rondon9897
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    Hi folks loving the RJ as I knew I would. Just a slight reservation about the engine simulation; it seems that, rather like the default MSFS aircraft, the engines don't seem to have any lag as they do in the 146 and you would expect in a jet aircraft. They seem to be a bit jerky and just immediately go to the commanded power setting.
    This may be an installation problem because I'm also finding that on selection of any panel state, the FMP (or FGP I think they call it in the RJ) and the TRP don't work, and I have to reselect the panel state again. If it is, I will uninstall/reinstall.

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    Mataplun
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    Hi there. I flew the RJ some years ago and just to comment on engine spool up: it seems accurate to me. There is no real "delay" on these small engines. They respond instantly. I think they did a good job. But I have the same problem with the TRP.

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    rondon9897
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    Okey doke well I defer to your better knowledge, thank you. The 146 engine behaviour seems much more as I'd expect, but if you say it's accurate, fair enough.

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    Mataplun
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    In the lower region of N1 there was a slight delay but above about 50-55% N1 no recognizable delay anymore.
    I will test it again during the next week and keep more focus on that.

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    rondon9897
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    If you can just have a look, that would be great, because even at taxi thrust settings, it just seems to jump into place like a default aircraft would. I'm sure you're right and I'm just being fussy but just something not quite right about it I think.

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    adl320
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    @rondon9897 I understand and agree with your assessment. I noted the same flying the RJ last night. Especially the spool down time. This is something that I don't think is unique to the RJ. I have seen this in multiple aircraft in MSFS - Starting with the FBW A320 in the early days. Jet engines do not have "instant" response like a prop. There is a spool time. Some less, some more but I think there may be some tuning possible here.

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    Mark JF Staff
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    Thanks for the feedback everyone. The engine response times are custom-coded based on videos taken in the real RJ. It would be expected for the spool times to be much quicker than higher-bypass engines that you would find on an A320 or 737 as there's a lot less rotating mass in the LF507s by comparison. I will bring this up with our development team though just to double-check everything.

    With regards to some systems (like the TRP and YD) not being functional following a change of aircraft state on the EFB, this possibly could be misunderstood for the FGC test. If the aircraft's power supply is changed when switching states (such as Cold and Dark > Turnaround) an FGC Test will be triggered once the power is restored. Off the top of my head, the FGC Test takes 45 seconds to complete after power has been applied to the aircraft and during that time, a few systems such as the TRP and YD will not be functional. Once the FGC Test is complete, an FGC PASS message will appear at the top right corner of the PFD.

    I suspect it may be possible to confuse the FGC Test logic if a change of aircraft state is made before an FGC test is completed (I.e. if the aircraft state is changed from Cold and Dark > Turnaround, then 10 seconds later to Ready For TO). I doubt it would be an issue if only one aircraft state change was made every minute. We'll do some tests with this to see if we can break that logic and if so, prevent that from occurring in the future.

    Mark - Just Flight

    Just Flight Development Assistant

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